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Episode 8: Coconut Oil, Healthy or Not?

Warren:

Dr. Pompa, we had to do it, man. We had to do it. We had to jump on board with the controversial bandwagon this week for our health hunters because they’re looking for truth, Dr. Pompa, and this coconut oil thing’s got a lot of our fans and friends highly upset because they’ve been downing large amounts of something called coconut oil. It’s not just for great suntans. It was great for weight loss and health benefits. Now the controversy is, according to the American Heart Association—call it the American Health Association. That would be an oxymoron, right? The American Heart Association released this report against the use of coconuts everywhere. The USA Today article reads “Coconut oil isn’t healthy. It’s never been healthy.”

Dr. Pompa, is this a load of—I’m going to swear, or is it not? I want to find out today on Health Hunters Radio.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. If you go by the saturated fat being bad for you theory, coconut’s really bad because it has a lot of saturated fat. If you think that raising LDL cholesterol is bad for you, then coconut’s really bad, coconut oil.

Warren:

That’s what it says here. “Dietary reviewed existing data on”—they produced a data review “showing coconut oil increased LDL (“bad”) cholesterol in seven out of seven out of seven controlled trials.”

Dr. Pompa:

I’ll state this. There is something that can be bad about coconut oil. You’re going to hear that on this show, but there’s something that can be really good. Where does the truth lie? Somehow, it always lies 180 degree opposite of what mainstream media is telling you. Warren, what’s the article saying? Why is coconut oil bad? Maybe the truth is opposite of that.

Warren:

I mean, this thing is gone massively viral. That’s the whole point, right? Media does it well. This is a well-designed—when they’re promoting anything, right, this is not just—I’ll just say this upfront. This is not an on accident looking at the Facebook shares, 835 hundred, a thousand Facebook shares, 1,178. This is just one article, 1,604 comments. This is just in the USA Today online. This was a massive media release that has gone viral all over the internet, all over mainstream media, news channels, so this was a purposeful release, let’s say that, by the American Heart Association in this review.

What they’re saying, this is for cardiovascular disease, don’t do it. Their point is is that it is very, very high in saturated fat. In fact, they say 82% of fat in coconut oil is saturated according to the data far beyond butter and beef fat and pork lard. They’re saying that coconut oil is 82%, to throw some stats out there, butter is 63, beef fat 50, and pork lard 39%, so the best thing to eat is pork lard, obviously. That’s what they’re saying here. “‘Because coconut oil increases LDL cholesterol, a cause of CVD, (cardiovascular disease), and has no known offsetting favorable effects, we advise against the use of coconut oil,’ the American Heart Association said in Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease advisory.” To be a little controversial—and I’m not throwing anyone under the bus. I don’t know this to be true, but I would believe there is definitely a financial reason they’re doing this. Either somehow with pharmaceuticals possibly, or they’re beating down the coconut oil industry for some reason. I have no idea, but this is quite the article. Not surprising either.

Then we can get into the study for coconut oil used for weight loss, which we recommend because it does have a lot of medium-chain triglycerides, which we’ll get into. They said this lady did that. Coconut oil has these. They made inference that coconut oil does cause weight loss, but the oil that she used in the study—Marie-Pierre St-Onge, I don’t know if I said that right, made the inference that coconut oil because it has medium-chain triglycerides can help with fat metabolism.

Yeah. They completely threw coconut oil underneath the bus out in mainstream media, and it’s out there. That was just a study that the American Heart Association did, so I got to think of a better analogy for AHA.

Dr. Pompa:

Look, let’s look 180 degrees opposite for a moment. Let’s start with this fact, right? They, the American Heart Association and I would throw the American Diabetes Association under this bus as well, believe that saturated fats are bad. Therefore, they look at products in nature, whether it’d be meat, butter, coconut oil, and they say the lower the saturated fat, the better it is for you. Now, that came out of a gentleman named [Alan] Keys. It was the 21-day study where he looked at certain countries and cherry-picked 7. I’m sorry. I think it was 27. He threw out seven. I don’t have it in front of me.

The bottom line was, when he threw out these countries, it basically made his argument look good, and that was fat is bad and especially saturated fats are bad. That rolled on. Alan Keys made his way to the cover of Time magazine, and he had been the poster child showing that fat is bad. Therein lies the birth of the low-fat, no-fat movement, and it’s never died since, even though science has proven it wrong again and again and again. Once something gets its hooks into government or government gets its hooks into it, it’s very difficult if impossible to reverse it. They’re still speaking a low-fat message, and especially, they’re against cholesterol and saturated fats. Now, we’ve made this argument on this show before that these fats are not only extremely important. They are extremely important for the hormone epidemic that we’re seeing. They save lives, the cell membrane and the hormone receptors and all these amazing things that we know that we need these fats for, and these fats are not the problem, this fact that they’re actually good for us. Okay. When you throw those countries back into Alan Keys studies, the outcome was completely different, showing a completely different result.

The bottom line is this. If we look at what they’re saying is bad, then I would agree coconut oil would be bad, but I want to tear down the LDL thing because I would agree with them. Coconut oil does raise LDL. Therefore, how in the world—and they’re right. LDL is considered the what cholesterol, Warren?

Warren:

The bad cholesterol it says right here in the study. Yeah. I forget that it’s the bad one, LDL.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, bad cholesterol.

Warren:

I have a theory. Before you get into this, I just want to throw this out there. Here’s my theory on why they did. We’re a numbers driven society, right? A lot of people are consuming high amounts of coconut oil for weight loss because that hit the market pretty hard. Not as hard as this. Everyone’s going to get their bloodwork back and be like, oh, my gosh. From coconut oil, the villain, I now have elevated LDL cholesterol. I need to get on a statin. I’m just saying that’s what I would do to indirectly drive sales if I was being a marketing expert.

Dr. Pompa:

Honestly, you know me, man. I never go conspiracy.

Warren:   

I’m not saying that’s the truth, but I’m going a little conspiracy for fun.  I’m just trying to throw some negative energy out there. You know what I mean?

Dr. Pompa:

It’s just a numbers thing, right? I think you hit it a little bit there. People are coming in with higher LDL numbers, and they believe that’s bad. Therefore, it’s the people with—they’re on coconut oil. They’re seeing that, and of course, when they take coconut oil away, they see a drop. It’s a pretty good correlation study right there. We agree with that, but let’s talk about LDL when we get back.

Warren:

Absolutely.

Warren:

Jump in a little. Getting a little conspiracy on you, Dr. Pompa, with this release against and bashing of coconut oil. There’s always got to be a reason. I don’t know what the reason is, but I’m thinking it’s to drive statin sales in America. Let’s get back to some of the facts that the health hunters want to consume here with us today. Not coconut oil, necessarily. I would say yes, but let’s consume the information about is LDL bad, which coconut oil does have lots of. It will drive that number, that awful number, that bad cholesterol, LDL. Is it really going to kill you if you have an elevated LDL?

Dr. Pompa:

No. By the way, this isn’t new news. They just made it new news. This has been known for quite some time. This is just old news brought out now, which looks like new news. Yeah. This has always been an argument about coconut oil, and that’s why years ago they said, oh, my gosh, you got to stop using this stuff. It’s loaded with saturated fat. It raises LDL. They just resurface things again and again, and here we go again.

Okay. The LDL, right, the study that they don’t do there is they’re not looking at what it does for HDL and what it does for triglycerides. It actually raises HDL and lowers triglycerides, which has a more direct correlation. There’s something called the triglyceride or HDL triglyceride ratio. It’s really important as far as a predictor of heart disease. Look, the bottom line is this. I wish I could draw this for our listening audience, but all you would hear is a pen moving. You wouldn’t see anything.

Okay. I’m going to give you an analogy. Okay. First I’m going to start with a question. In a traffic jam, what matters more, the number of cars or the number…

Warren:

In a traffic jam.

Dr. Pompa:

What matters more?

Warren:

You cut out there for a second.

Dr. Pompa:

In a traffic jam, what matters more, the number of cars or the number of people in the cars? Meaning what makes a traffic jam worse or not as bad, the number of cars or the number of people in the cars? I’m asking.

Warren:

Number of cars

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, well, of course, of course. Number of people in the cars is irrelevant. I think we would all agree. It doesn’t matter if every car has five people in it or one. Meaning, if the number of cars doesn’t change, then the traffic jam is the same. It’s irrelevant how many people are in the cars. Okay. Cholesterol just can’t float around your blood. It’s carried in something called a particle. If you imagine these littles spheres that carry cholesterol, these little vehicles like our cars, right, when you look at a particle that’s very full, that is considered high cholesterol.

Let’s just talk LDL. That’s considered high LDL. If we look at a particle that’s not very full of cholesterol, that would be considered low LDL, so when looking at total LDL like they are in this study or in this article, they’re looking at how filled these particles are. They’re saying that, hey, when you take in coconut oil, you’re filling your particles. Your LDL, total LDL goes up, and this is really bad. Okay. This has been really disproven in science years ago. Again, this isn’t new news. I’m not spreading new news here. I’m just regurgitating what we already know, and fact is is that—well, let me finish my analogy. Then I’ll tell you what the science really shows.

The fact is is this, the number of cars is what matters. That’s equal to, if we’re drawing this analogy, how many particles that you have, meaning the stuff that carries the cholesterol, those little vehicles that carry cholesterol, so the number of particles is what we need to be counting. Does cholesterol or does coconut oil raise the number of cars or particles that carry the cholesterol? The answer is no, and matter of fact, most often it actually can decrease the number of particles that carry cholesterol or the number of cars, which is really a good thing. It makes the traffic jam worse. What we do know is it raises the number of people in cars. It raises the number of the amount of cholesterol that’s being carried in the particles, which is irrelevant in a traffic jam and irrelevant according to studies as far as heart disease goes, so yes, your total LDL really is a nonissue. The particles are the bigger issue. The more particles, the worse you have, and the smaller the particle, the more dangerous in risk you are at heart disease.

Coconut oil is actually shown to lower the number of small particles, the more dangerous particles. We don’t want small, and we don’t want a lot. Coconut oil really doesn’t play a factor there in a bad way. There you go. That’s the truth. By the way, total cholesterol according to studies really doesn’t have much at all to do with heart attacks. As a matter of fact, there is a higher mortality, meaning more deaths, for people that have low cholesterol than people that actually have high cholesterol, meaning that low cholesterol is more dangerous than high cholesterol. There you have it.

Warren:

Even one of the referred articles here says cutting saturated fat doesn’t necessarily reduce heart disease risk, of course. They’re telling people to cut your coconut oil, and just as many people are going to die of heart attacks. That’s what I think the study showed, right? I can’t remember the name of it, but you quoted this quite a few times is that the people that are taking statin drugs and having lower cholesterol numbers aren’t necessarily living longer. They’re still having heart attacks, and sometimes your body elevates cholesterol on purpose because your body is smart. As we’ve learned in previous shows on Health Hunters, the body adapts to whatever you do. If you drink alcohol, it’ll create a fatty liver, but it’s actually protecting itself from—if you’re going to do this to me, I’m going to X, Y, Z, do this thing. Sometimes you’re doing something wrong in your life, or you have a toxin like a heavy metal, and your body is actually releasing more cholesterol. It’s a protective mechanism, and then you’re taking a statin drug.

You have to realize that, when you’re masking with a drug like a statin to a lower a number, it’s not getting rid of the original problem. Why is your cholesterol high? Oh, it’s because you have cellular inflammation. Your insulin and glucose is off, so you take a drug. It’s not necessarily reducing your risk of heart disease. It is doing what it says it will do, which is lowering cholesterol with all kinds of negative effects. That’s why I got into this conspiracy thing here, Dr. Pompa, is because I get a little mad about something that’s healthy. Fat, as we know if you’ve listened to our shows, if you’ve read any of the articles on Dr. Pompa’s website or anyone else’s website out there that has from—some of our friends from Joe Mercola to Ben Greenfield and down the list, Mark Hyman, all of these incredible humans that are on this mission to bring truth to the world like we here on Health Hunters Radio. They’re being duped, and it’s sad.

I think that is pretty clear.  I think everybody knows that fat is good if done right, but the thing you start at the beginning of the show is there is some bad coconut oil out there. There actually is some bad olive oils out there. Let’s talk about some of the bad things, and we’ll pick this up on Segment 3 here coming up after announcements from our sponsors and revelationhealth.com. Let’s start going there. What makes, essentially, a good fat bad? It’d be perfect timing. We’ll come back right after this, these announcements, on what makes a good fat like coconut oil bad? What makes a good fat like olive oil bad? What makes a good fat like butter bad? What makes a good fat in meat bad, right after these announcements?

Warren:

This is a really relevant topic. We talk about ketosis, intermittent fasting, diet variation, tribal seasonal foods. Some of the studies, the Inuit tribes, right, in the north, that’s all they eat is lard, and they don’t have—zero heart disease. Sorry, American Health—I did it again. I’m actually branding them positive, in a positive light, American Heart Association, American Hypocrite Association. I don’t know. I’m trying to come up with something fancy and funny, haven’t quite landed there yet. I keep going the wrong way.

No. It’s not healthy. The American Health said it isn’t. America is not healthy, and American Heart Association may be giving you quite a bit of misinformation. They eat a bunch of lard, right, and they have zero heart disease. They’ve done the studies. We’re telling people to do coconut oil with your 4-1-1 Rule with getting people into nutritional ketosis for a season as you diet vary them, and sometimes they’re eating a higher fat diet. Sometimes you’re moving into some high carb days and things like that that we teach. Are we killing people when we’re telling them eat this fat, or is there some truth to it? We blow that out of the water easily.

Let’s go back into what are some of the bad oils. How can you turn these—coconut oil, you said it Dr. Pompa, can be bad. How can it be bad to somebody who’s consuming it?

Dr. Pompa:

The more we process things, the further they get from nature, and the worse it can become. Coconut oil carries a lot of things in it that are so positive, right? I mean, the medium-chain triglycerides, we need those. They’re great. The saturated fats, we need them. They’re great.

Warren:

MCTs, medium-chains do drive metabolism.

Dr. Pompa:

They do. They do.

Warren:

One of the brands that we sell, it’s called Skinny Coconut Oil. Not we sell but revelationhealth.com sells. They have Skinny Coconut Oil.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. It’s a good one.

Warren:

They call it skinny from a marketing—from a marketing standpoint, they use the word skinny.

Dr. Pompa:

Helps you lose it.

Warren:

Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Those listening, google this. Google coconut oil and Alzheimer’s. There’s a video that will come up, and you’ll see. One of the ways that they can look at Alzheimer’s is you could draw a clock. They have the person attempt to draw the clock, and people with Alzheimer’s can’t do that, right? However, you can give them two tablespoons of coconut oil, and all of a sudden, they can draw the clock. It’s remarkable, right? I mean, it’s real. It’s not funny camera. It’s a real thing.

MCT is the medium-chain triglycerides are one of the reasons. Right after you have this coconut oil, you start to burn fat, and you make something called ketones. Ketones help the brain work. Now, again, it’s temporary. I mean, two hours later or whatever they probably can’t draw the clock again. The point is is that it burns fat and makes ketones, and it helps the brain temporarily. That’s one of the reasons we put people on a high-fat diet and put them into ketosis. Right, those ketones help the brain. It helps you become a better fat metabolizer. You burn fat more, so we know that to be true. People definitely feel like, my gosh, I feel so much better when I take these fats.

Okay. You asked the question about what makes it bad. Yeah. I mean, just like anything, you can heat any fat to a certain temperature and make it bad, so you have to watch the way things are processed. If they’re processed with a lot of heat, that can denature a lot of these things called polyphenols and different things in the fats that we know are really good for us, and it makes a good fat bad. Heat can be damaging, and the heat is created during the processing. We know that to be true. A lot of the things that are beneficial to you can also be filtered out through a filtration process, etc., which is a refining process, right? Actually, refined coconut oils are better to cook with because of some of those good polyphenols. Flavonoids aren’t in there, and those are the things that can go rancid. They’re incredibly amazing for you.

Warren:

Oxidize, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Right, they oxidize. Become incredibly bad for you. The refined oils, meaning they filter it more, actually makes them better to heat. Now, that doesn’t mean that that’s the oil you should be eating for health. It just doesn’t denature as much. The bottom line is, if you’re eating straight coconut oil, the less refined the better, and the less processed the better. Yes. You’re going to spend more on an oil. You’re not going to spend five bucks on a jar and go, oh, I got a great deal. Fact is you got a bad deal because it’s probably processed so much that it really doesn’t have health benefits. It could be damaging.

Look what’s coming out in olive oil right now. I mean, folks, listen, google olive oils and the dangers of olive oil. We’ve known for years that olive oil has all these benefits, right? We hung out with Dr. Sinatra. He’s the cardiologist for the stars, right? I mean, this guy’s on all the major networks, and he’s the olive oil guru, right? He won’t touch olive oil. Even though he’s Italian, he won’t touch olive oil right now from Italy or Spain because they’re cutting it with vegetable oil. By the way, all the olive oils you get in restaurants, it’s really light looking. Absolutely, these have been cut.

Warren:

This article says you should use vegetable oils.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, right. See, they’ve got it bad. Vegetable oils are polyunsaturated. I just lost people just with a word. Just know this, the saturated fats like butters and coconut oil are very stable to heat, etc. The polyunsaturated fats are so unstable. They become rancid so fast, so therefore, they’re rancid on all process.

Warren:

Even in the refining process. Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Absolutely. Vegetable oils are the most poisonous of all. They’ve got it backwards. This is an ancient article. The vegetable oils are killers, so they’re cutting olive oil, something that was so good, with all these vegetable oils. You go into Whole Foods and places. You see canola oil. It’s terrible. It’s rapeseed oil that’s been raped, literally. It’s just void of all of its nutrients. It’s not good at all.

These oils are not good. By the way, flax oil, flax oil is another very fragile oil that people consume thinking they’re healthy. It just ends up to be another rancid oil. The truth be told, you’d be better off with the saturated.

Warren:

It goes rancid.

Dr. Pompa:

Absolutely. Butter is very stable. It’s saturated fat, but if you brown it, if it turns brown in your pan, then you just made it bad, right? Heat can still affect a more stable oil. Olive oil goes bad around 350 to 450, depending on the oil.

Warren:

It’ll smoke. If you’re making popcorn with coconut oil like I do, if you see it smoke, just throw it out. I do it every time. You feel bad. It’s all that good coconut oil, and it’s wasting. If you’re like me and you get distracted on who knows what—with me, I’m like that dog on Up. I’ll bark at anything, and I’ll look around. Then pretty soon my coconut oil is smoking. You can’t use it. You can’t use it. You just got to throw it away because it’s poison.

Here’s my thoughts. If I see canola oil, even at Whole Foods or anywhere else in the foods, I don’t eat it because I don’t trust canola oil. It’s a very polyunsaturated fat, like you said, very unstable. Even in the processing, it can be super toxic. The chance of that stuff being toxic are huge. I mean, I avoid—and this is going to be a question for you. I eat very little if any white rice, sugars, refined sugars, anything like that. On occasion, I might have a dessert when I’m out, a healthier one that may have cane sugar or whatever in it. I would eat that way more, that cane sugar over a rancid oil all day long.

Yeah. If you spike your insulin a little bit and you’re doing every once in a while, your body can adapt to that, right? We can eat fruit. Do those things. When you give it an oil that it absolutely cannot recognize, it causes inflammation at the cellular level a lot longer than it would if you got a little insulin spike. It takes what, I forget, 365 days or something a year? I forget what you quote, Dr. Pompa, that fat oil, it could take your body to get rid of it.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Hundred and two days of dysfunction you have.

Warren:

Hundred and two days, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Those bad oils, they make their way into the fatty membranes of our cells, which are incredibly important, and they cause dysfunction for 102 days. Yeah, bad.

Warren:

I remember our video. If you google it on YouTube—this is old school, guys. You can get out there on YouTube. Do this. This is one of our—it’s probably gotten 75,000, 100,000 views. It didn’t go super viral, but it was super funny. I don’t know if it was a plasma torch, but it was really hot enough to cut steel torch and stuck it to a Twinkie. It just shed it like it was the shield from Captain America, right? It just could not penetrate that Twinkie.

Dr. Pompa:

It didn’t burn the Twinkie. It didn’t burn it.

Warren:

It couldn’t touch the Twinkie, but if you put it on a good fat—we put it on a brownie made with coconut oil. That thing caught fire faster than fast so coming back from our next, last segment coming up. We’ll be right back.

 

Warren:

Here we go, coming up on our solutions section of the last segment for the show today on healthhuntersradio.com. Dr. Pompa, we can turn good oils bad with heat, the refining process, staying away from some of them unstable poly-saturated fats in vegetable oils, which this USA Today article recommended. I’d like for them to go down and write that story, but they didn’t. They pretty much sad the only thing good for coconut oil now is as an effective moisturizer, which I would agree with. They nailed that one.

Let’s get into some of the good fats and good oils that—how to find those, which ones to use, even in the coconut oil space, the olive oil space. I know that we sell really good MCT oil that’s out there. Our sponsor sells it, revelationhealth.com. The NuMedica line is a great MCT because it’s in glass, and that’s another issue, guys. I’ll throw that out there as a freebie is that, if you’re getting oils, get them in glass because the plastics can absolutely leach into those fats. Fat-soluble hormone disrupting plastic, got to get rid of those. If you’re buying oils, get it in glass, guys, even though it’s cheaper at Costco. Love Costco for many reasons, but I don’t buy the olive oil or oils that are in plastic there. That’s a little side note. Let’s get into some of these good oils.

Dr. Pompa:

Look, let me put a shameless plug out there. The Cellular Healing Diet book, which we’ve sold hundreds of thousands of copies of has—it used to be Page 19, Warren. There’s been some editing, so I’m probably wrong.

Warren:

There’s been 15 versions of this book.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, exactly. I remember that, Page 19. I have to memorize the new page, but there’s a page that has all of your fats that can tolerate heat, medium heat, and absolutely no heat. If you get confused, there is a reference on our website, the Cellular Healing Diet book. Anyway, some of the better fats for cooking are like almond oil, macadamia oil. They take heat, coconut oil to some temperature.

Warren:

How about avocado oil?

Dr. Pompa:

Very good, very good heat, yeah, very good heat.

Warren:

How about grapeseed oil, grape?

Dr. Pompa:   

Yeah. It can take heat very well. One of the nice things, if you go into most health food stores, I think Spectrum brand has the heat temperature gauge on the oil. You can say, oh, it can take high, very high, medium, low. Here’s the thing. Look, flax oil, fish oil, those are polyunsaturated, vegetables oils. They’re best to keep them in their natural environments. Meaning if you’re going to get fish oil, eat fish. Get some sardines. Get the DHAs and those really important fats that are so fragile.

I’m not a fan of fish oil for that very reason and for other reasons. We’ve talked in past shows about the balance. Those fats are in certain balance in fish. They protect them, but with other fats, arachidonic acid, saturated fats that are meant to be eaten with those fish oils just aren’t there. Keep those in their natural. Flaxseed, I’m all for flax oil when it’s in flaxseeds. You grind up flaxseeds. That’s the key there.

The polyunsaturated is very unstable. Monounsaturated fats, that’s your olive oil. They are more stable when they’re processed correctly, not cut. By the way, here’s the tip. The tip here is, if it tastes really grassy, that’s the polyphenols. They bite in the back of your throat. They’re green in color.

Warren:

They burn. Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, exactly. That’s when you know you’re getting a good oil. If it tastes like vegetable oil, it probably is or at least mostly vegetable oil, so stay away from that.

Warren:

They do the 50/50 split at restaurants because it’s expensive. Real good olive oil is expensive.

Dr. Pompa:

That’s right.

Warren:

You have to ask that question. Oh, we have olive oil. Yes. Then you ask is it 100% only olive oil? They would say, oh, no. It’s a 50/50 blend. We just switched over. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard that. We just switched over to that for expense reasons.

I’m like so you’re a high-class restaurant. You’re charging me $40 for my main entrée, and you’re telling me you’re cheaping out with not real olive oil. I’m like that’s just a little bit crazy craze. Don’t like that. I’m going that where are the safer olive oils, where to get them from? You mentioned something about that earlier. I’m worried now with the Italian ones.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. California is the way to go now.

Warren:

It has to be organic, though, I bet because of all the—they still spray a lot over there, glyphosate, right? Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. Yeah. You don’t want that. Organic California oils now are some of the best oils.

Warren:

In Greece, I heard Greece is still good.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Mm-hmm. I heard about Greece.

Warren:

They’re the originators of all things olive oil, right, all things olives, olive oils, olive oil everything. They have olive oil cake. They have olive oil—I bet you they have olive oil hair creams. I wouldn’t mind it. Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. No. There’s more and more information coming out about these bad olive oils, and again, it’s bad because of what we’ve done to it. Anyway, real butter, the Kerrygold, the grass-fed butter, you can buy in every health food store now, mainstream grocery stores. That’s a grass-fed butter. Again, feeding cows grain is another way to ruin fats, by the way, so we have to be careful about what we feed the animals when we harvest their fat, so to speak.

Warren:

The fat collects toxins too.

Dr. Pompa:
It does.

Warren:

That’s the other deal, so fats are toxin storers in your body. That’s one reason sometimes you’ll gain weight is your body is responding to high level of toxicity and actually keeps you healthy. You start burning fat and losing weight, and all of a sudden, you get sick because you—you got to deal with that toxicity issue as we—detox can be dangerous, last show.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. You don’t want to take those, the butter, and start to brown it. When it starts to smoke, again, you made good fat bad. Temperature is important, but getting a good fat with—an animal is fed grain sprayed with a lot of chemicals, glyphosate. Guess what? That shows up in the butter. Dairy can be healthy. Dairy can be very bad. We need to do a whole show on the truth about dairy. There is a lot there.

Another oil that we have to do a show on—this is a separate show, so I saved it for last is what about this cannabis oil, cannabidiol, hemp oil, marijuana topic, right?

Warren:

I thought about doing—when we were laying out our shows, I was like we should skip to that show, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

That’s a good show.

Warren:

You just came off of a hot—it’s a hot topic.

Dr. Pompa:

It is.

Warren:

You just came off of an amazing story. You probably can’t name names of what you learned because it’s a rabbit hole that could get us both killed, but it was great information that we can translate and share with the world here on Health Hunters. It’s just like when you’re looking for a car. You see it everywhere. When you’re looking for truths, truth finds you. One of our good friends says the universe will provide that what you focus on. If you’re focusing on truth, you will find truth, and the universe will provide truth.

I like to say God because I’m a Christian. Love to mistakes, and people judge me for that. That’s what being a Christian is all about, right, is trying to live the life and being open, honest that we’re far from perfect. No better than anybody else. It’s just our belief.

Dr. Pompa:

I think we need to do a future show on cannabis. I’d love to bring on an expert in this. He might choose to be anonymous completely, but we’ll bring him on anyway. He doesn’t have to give his name, but we can find out the inner workings of what really is going on in this marijuana world and cannabis and cannabidiol. There’s a lot here, right, folks? I mean, people swear by the benefits. It’s a big show.

Warren:

I’m a CBD oil fan.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, CBD oil that doesn’t have THC.

Warren:

Correct.

Dr. Pompa:

People don’t know that today still. Cannabidiol is very, very important oil, fat, that comes from the hemp plant, which is considered marijuana, but the THC isn’t there. It’s very, very health benefiting to the cells. It can downregulate inflammation and a lot of health benefits.

Warren:

Let’s do our next show on that.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely.

Warren:

Let’s just do that. We’re doing a great lead-in here. Now, my question is on cannabidiol oil. Does it have health fats in it? That’s a question. I don’t know that answer, so I’m asking you. What kind of fats? Is it polyunsaturated? Is it saturated?

Dr. Pompa:

No. It has good Omega 3s, Omega 6. I mean, all the fats that we would see in most oils are in there in certain percentages, and it’s fantastic for your cell membranes.

Warren:

It doesn’t denature when you heat it? Not when you heat it, obviously, when they process it. Do they do a pulled extraction?

Dr. Pompa:

Absolutely. Just like every one of these oils, it has to be done correctly. You get what you pay for. No doubt, fats can carry toxins, so therefore, a clean one is important. The processing is very important so they don’t denature these incredibly important fats. Yeah. I mean, these fats are hugely important. Cannabidiol, cannabis oil as it’s known is really important. There’s a system in our body called the endocannabinoid system that really has a lot to do with how our brain works, hormones, and these cannabis oils play into that system. Many people really need them and lack them.

You’re right. There’s a whole show there, Warren. This was an important show for your health right here, I’ll tell you.

Warren:

All right, guys, go out and continue to eat your coconut oil. Get the good stuff. Get organic. Consume the stuff that’s not filtered in junk. Then you go out there, and you tell the American Heart Association that you’re healthy.