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Episode 10: Chronic Pain

Warren:

Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah.

Warren:

We’re going to talk about probably one of the most motivational, for some us, topics on the planet. There’s two things that motivate humans. One is pain. The other is pleasure. The topic I think we should hit today, which is pretty motivating for me right now because I’m dealing with some chronic pain, some chronic inflammation, the topic of pain. This thing is a motivator and sometimes a [debilitater]. We all suffer with it at some level along our journey, whether it’s joint pain, hip pain, neck pain, chronic headaches, and these are the things that really, quite honestly, piss you off along the way.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I’ve been there. I’ve been there. I’ve had debilitating back pain a few times in my life, neck pain from a fracture. I mean, I know what it’s like, man. I mean, that makes the—we’ve sought out the best things, haven’t we? That’s why we’re doing this show. There’s a lot of things that are harmful, and let’s bring the good stuff, right.

Warren:

Yeah. Then, a lot of the people, they suffer from what really got me into the natural health and wellness movement period which sent me on a journey with chronic pain. They were diagnosed as, what they say, fibromyalgia, the overly sensitive nerves, these inflamed nerve bundles, which is really related to toxicity. We know that toxins are also a hidden cause of pain, but we also deal with—like I have a chronic hip pain problem right now that I’m working on. I don’t know if it’s—well, I have an idea after seeing many specialists. I want to share some of those secrets. I know, Dr. Pompa, you just got worked on for some neck pain, some low back pain as well. We’re both very active, and these things creep up. Even our good friend, Ben Greenfield, he’s constantly—the most fittest guy on the planet. He’s constantly in pain from the things that he’s doing all the time, beating up his body up doing those crazy endurance races.

Let’s tackle the subject just the chronic hip pain, back pain, neck pain, those sorts of things and what are the causes and some of the cool new solutions and some of the new science and breakthroughs that we’ve discovered in our journey.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I mean, I used to do structural correction chiropractic, Warren. You remember that.

Warren:

Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

I mean, my expertise was looking at someone’s posture and their X-ray and saying, okay, this structure is going to create functional problems. Which if they weren’t in pain at that pain, I could promise them they will be. When you look at someone’s posture from the side, seeing hands to your head, you know darn well that’s going to lead to neck pain, headaches, and mid-back pain. I mean, it just is.

Warren:

Every time.

Dr. Pompa:

You see one higher than the other, the translation where their body is over here. Oh, do you have any low back pain? No. You’re going to one day, but most of the time, of course, they had major pain. Yeah. I mean structure is a cause but so is just, boom, one failed trauma, right? It happened to me.

I broke a spinous process of my back, herniated the disc, and from that day forth, every year I go into these—a couple times a year into these massive back pain issues. Later, it compensated, and my lumbosacral ligament went into spasm all because of that one trauma, same thing with my neck. I was pounced on from the rear, compression fracture T5, got jumped on. We were wrestling and just crushed my disc, of course, and my bone. It fractured the bone, so from that day on, neck pain creeps in.

I’ve tried it all, folks. I have. I’ve tried it all. I mean, I have corrected my structure, but yet, because there was damage from traumas, later in life, all of a sudden there’s more aches and pains. Now, I don’t have pain on a day in, day out basis. I didn’t. I would go skiing, and I would do the wrong thing. Because there’s so much scar tissue, it led me to being able to injure that very easily.

We are going to share with you all the things we’ve done that work and the things that we did that’s crap and didn’t work, a waste of money. Warren, tell them your story. You do have a more recent story right now.

Warren:

Yeah. I mean, this is actually an embarrassing story. They don’t know this about me, but I love bass fishing. I have a company, Phillips Outdoors & [Bass] Fishing. I fish tournaments. I take people fishing. Actually, I took you out the other day, and we went fishing, and I took your son out as well. I love doing these things.

The problem is I was in a bass tournament, and it was a really windy day. There’s a little foot pedal that goes up and down. You stick your foot on. You go back and forth, back and forth, and it was a really windy day. That was on April 4. We did really well in that tournament, won some money. It was a great, great day, but it was a really bad day from a pain standpoint. Ever since then, that wavy day, whatever I was doing back and forth in my hips tore or strained a tendon or just put the muscle in some sort of weird spasm, but literally, over the last four months, I cannot get rid of this chronic pain. It is now stopping my lifestyle. It’s interrupting my daily life.

Dr. Pompa:

I have to admit. I thought it was something way more manly than that. I thought it was from—you’re kicking the heavy bag, right? You’re training.

Warren:

I’m sure that had—let’s say it was an accumulation of things, and it was the bass fishing that set it off. There’s nothing more manly than bass fishing, Dr. Pompa. I mean, come on. Do you see the way I set my hook on a large bass? I mean, it’s manly.

Dr. Pompa:

There’s nothing wrong with bass fishing. That is manly. However, it’s these bass fishing injuries that are really killing America, Warren. I’m telling you, this is one of the more dangerous sports, so I’ve heard. [00:07:11].

Warren:

There is some MMA type stuff in there and kicking as well and punching. My wrist got sore as well from the chronic hitting into the bag. Twisting my wrist in when I was doing hooks. Things like that as well led to repetitive—repetitive things you do over and over again cause the damage, right? I remember I quit punching with my hands and kicked more, so maybe that was what added to the injury. Regardless, it set me off on this journey where I didn’t really deal with a lot of chronic pain since the fibromyalgia issue, which was cured or corrected by removing toxins, which decreased inflammation, which decreased pain. That was the solution there.

For this hip thing, Dr. Pompa, I mean, literally, I love chiropractic. We’re not going to get into this topic right now. It’s a controversial topic right now, chiropractic, probably not for many of our listeners. It’s getting under attack once again, nothing new, chiropractic care, but it is massive. I don’t think anyone would argue the pain aspect of chiropractic, right, so if you get an adjustment or if a hip’s out, if a shoulder’s out. If your shoulder’s out, the good thing is you can put it back in. It doesn’t lead to surgery, so it saves a lot.

I don’t know many people you worked with over the years, Dr. Pompa. They say, oh, I need surgery. Their shoulder’s just out, and you put it back in. If you can find someone that’s a good extremity adjuster, you can really change your world. That’s one solution, finding a doctor that specializes in extremity adjusting, putting wrists back in, shoulders, elbows, knees. Man, I know that you fixed me a thousand times, ribs, those sorts of things, big, big time spent.

I went to all the best chiropractors, muscle work. This thing would not go away no matter what I’ve done until—I’m doing two really cool things right now, and it’s the only things that are helping me move forward. One happens to be an expert. [00:09:14] has an office in Utah, and here I am. There’s this great guy you introduced me to who’s the chiropractor essentially to these health—well, to pro athletes all over the country, right? You know their names. I mean, I don’t remember their names, but a lot of them are like John Stockton from basketball, all these guys. He does a technique, Dr. Pompa, that we’ll talk about when we get back that deals with muscle activation.

Warren:

We are back. We’ve been discussing pain. Thanks for the announcement, sponsors, and where we left off is on our journey. There’s many things that we’re going to get into, CBD, cannabis oil for decreasing inflammation and pain in the cannabinoid pathways. I don’t know those things as well as Dr. Pompa, so he’s going to get into that as well. He knows this technique too. This muscle activation technique, Dr. Pompa, was really, really cool, and there’s a lot of doctors, mostly chiropractors and some orthopedics, that are also doing this muscle activation work, which had a lot of—made a big difference. I didn’t notice it at first, Dan, but he activated these muscles. It’s stabilizing, so I’m doing a lot better there. I want you to explain that.

Then the next technique that you have me doing because Dr. Pompa has me doing these things as we hunt for answers—in particular, as we age, I’m now 42 years old, these things used to not be on the top of my list, like pain, but they are now. I know Dr. Pompa lives a very high-end life, super healthy, and he loves being at the top of his game. He introduced me to another doctor, Jason West, who does something called cryotherapy, Dr. Pompa? Those two combinations at your suggestion have been the two things that have helped me with my pain and dysfunction in my hip.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Let’s start with turning on muscles. There’s a technique called AMIT or A-M-I-T, which is Advanced Muscle Integration Technique, and Warren, that’s what Dr. Buhler—not Ferris Bueller. That’s how I remember it, by the way. Buhler is an amazing guy. He does treat a lot of the pro athletes and a lot of the skiers, a lot of the pro skiers who have horrific injuries. Basically, nerve supplied muscles—muscles make joints move, right, make us move, but when nerves are turned off through traumas, multiple different ways, really, imbalances, then certain nerves can be turned off to going to certain muscles. Now, you have an imbalance. Another problem of that is being more activated, and therefore, even if you’re not injured, you’d still be.

The key is is turning on these muscles through this technique, and then it creates rebalancing. Then, over the time, now all of a sudden now the joint’s functioning normal, right? It’s moving normal. The biomechanics of the joint are now normal because when certain muscles—even very small muscles, can be—that nerve supply to that muscle being turned off will cause that whole joint, the whole biomechanics to not function. Therefore, I don’t care how many pain pills you take. I don’t care how many salt baths, whatever you’re doing. You’re going to end up with a sore joint because of the biomechanics due to a nerve being turned off. The technique is basically activating these nerves, and it’s done through certain adjustments. It’s done through even some heavy trigger point therapies so very advanced work. I think it’s work that, if you have pain, you need to consider.

Then I talked about doing structural correction. There’s a couple techniques. One called Pettibon. Another called Chiropractic BioPhysics. Those are structural corrections. Therefore, I believe it’s also important if you have chronic pain to consider looking at your structure, and going to a structural correction chiropractic. There’s two different forms of chiropractic that I believe are leading the way as far as pain goes.

Warren:

Those are the things that I’ve done over the years. I didn’t have any pain. If you think about it, I had a really—I had pendulum meter when you measured me, short right leg, and I didn’t realize that was causing some heavy knee pain. Actually, my one calf, if you saw the muscular difference, was way bigger than the other, so we did some structural correction. We put a lift in my shoe. Did some things like that. The knee pain went away so sometimes orthotic, and there’s two sides of orthotic. With the Paleo movement, which we are definitely a fan of—we’re health hunters. The tribal movement where people ran around in their bare feet, things like that are really important. There’s all kinds of things with grounding and all kinds of benefits about going barefoot, but if you have a short right leg and you’re in some—or left leg and you’re in some chronic pain and you notice some muscle differences in your leg, you might want to go to someone who specializes in that.

The structural correction, Dr. Pompa, what you showed me on my X-ray is you noticed that big curve in your spine, right? That’s engineering. You can think of something as a bridge. When there’s a big curve, there’s going to be more pressure, attention at that critical point where that bends at, so that starts to wear away at the discs. What happens is you start impinging on the nerve bundle, which is what, 3 or 4% of your nerves. If you’re hitting a nerve bundle that activates pain, you’re pinching off all kinds of other good nerve flow and good information that’s going to the rest of your body.

You see that point. You said, Warren, we straighten this out. Some of your low back pain—I didn’t have really bad back pain, or you’ll have back pain in the future. You can predict with structural correction through some X-rays where the pain’s going to come from as that disc wears down over time, same thing with the straight neck. There should be a nice curve in there like a bridge. Not a twisted bridge but a nice bridge that spreads that heavy ten pound bowling ball of your head out like a bridge. You noticed those things in my neck. Put a curve back in my neck back in the day, so it’s preventative.

The sad thing, the sad reality and you’ve said this Dr. Pompa, if it was crooked teeth, people run to go do that. When it comes to a crooked spine, they never see it, so there’s no pain or pleasure associated with it until the pain comes from a bad neck. If the pain comes, then you go see the doctor, and sometimes what they say, oh, we need to go in and have surgery. Oh, man, and then you could really, really mess up your life. Then when surgery happens, you impinge the structure say in your back in one area with the fusion, and then the disc above and below get destroyed. Like my dad, he now can’t even walk because of back surgery. That is some of the two things.

Then the other thing you had me do is this other crazy therapy, which—see, I don’t even know what it did, but it really, really helped loosen up those muscles and reactivate them in a whole different way and promote healing. Tell them about that technique, cryotherapy. Is that what it’s called?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. There is that but there’s Prolozone therapy, which is more—it’s more natural. It’s using certain things to actually stimulate the body’s own healing. One of which is ozone. Ozone can be very stimulating to the immune system, and activate the healing process. They can be very direct on where they put the Prolozone, and therefore, they can get that area to start the healing process. It works.

Look, my lumbosacral ligament in my low back started compensating for my disc problem, and this is years now. I mean, years I’ve had this. This particular year, I was only able to ski four times. Every time I was thrown forward a little bit, I would injure it worse, so I literally skied four times. Three out of the four, I injured it even worse. I was ready to do something different, right? What I did was the Prolozone therapy. I’m telling you, Warren, usually it takes three to six shots. I did one shot, and it transformed me. It works.

Warren:

Sorry. My phone got off there. I’m here. Sorry, team. Okay. These different therapies that we just discussed—and I know that I had one. Here’s my two questions for you, Dr. Pompa. One, are they safe? Some people are afraid of chiropractic so one. Then when we come back, also two, the Prolozone therapy, is that safe, and is it natural? Where can I find a practice that may be doing that?

Warren:

Here we are, Dr. Pompa, giving some folks preventative and active ways to eliminate pain. Further down the show, we’re going to do some supplements and things that you can use as well that really decrease pain and help. I have a few tricks over my health hunter years that have really worked and so have you. The two questions I believe our audience has, our health hunter following here, is one, chiropractic, is it safe? There is some of the bad press out. Not bad press. It’s nonscientific bantering.

Let’s not get into that, but we’re both huge fans, sold out on the power of chiropractic care, the philosophy that is the best philosophy on the planet. We love it. However, not everybody understands it because it’s not crooked teeth, right? It’s a crooked spine that you can’t see. If it’s not causing pain, why should I get adjusted, right? Why should I undergo what Dr. Pompa just talked about, the structural correction chiropractic care, and is that safe?

Number two, the Prolozone therapy, that sounds like you’re injecting something non-natural, which isn’t really the health hunter way, right? We’re a natural, unless there’s an emergency or something we need to do. Is that safe? How can our individual be confident, and where they can find some of these therapies?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I mean, Prolozone therapy is becoming more popular because it is safe. It really is using all natural things, and it really does stimulate the body healing. That’s why I went in that direction. I mean, I was shocked, frankly, at the results so quickly. I think he was too, Warren. I remember he said, yeah, you usually don’t get a guy get one shot. I mean, I literally was able to pick up 90-pound dumbbell with one hand and swing it over the bench, which if I had done that a week before—I’d say a month before because that’s when it happened. It was a month later that I did that. Yeah, I wouldn’t have been able to do it.

It was a remarkable difference in just how solid my back was and how I could bend forward without pain, so it did. Now, it didn’t happen right away. I mean, it started tightening up over a week in a good way. One of the things it does is totally tightens up the ligaments. Then in about two weeks, I was like, oh, my gosh, I think I’m fixed, and by three weeks, I became even further believer. Really, it healed in about four to six weeks. The body is still healing, so it’s pretty amazing technique.

Listen, there are other techniques. I mean, there’s ERP. These things I would search out before any type of a surgery. They all really get the body to do what it’s not doing and that’s heal. There’s a few other things that can be done, and I’m a firm believer in. There’s some called a BEMER machine that actually increases capillary flow. As you get older, after the age of 25, your capillary flow slows down, and that happens to some people faster than others. When you increase that capillary flow, you are increasing the healing. The nutrients go into those soft tissues and joints, and people have come back from severe pain with these BEMER machines.

It’s German technology that’s recently just got FDA approval in this country, so before, it was very difficult to get. Now you can actually get these BEMER devices. Maybe we can provide a link for that.

Warren:

We can throw that up in the show notes.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. You can throw it up in the show notes.

Warren:

For more information. I was going to say lasers, Dr. Pompa, like the K-laser.

Dr. Pompa:

I was just going to go there. I mean, I guess that there’s hot lasers and there’s cold lasers. It’s new technology that I—it has a real profound effect for certain injuries, certain conditions. I would find a practitioner who has these different laser devices, and I would also investigate that. Again, it’s not harmful. It either works, or it doesn’t. It’s not like taking a pain medication, which we don’t have time on this show to beat up. I will say this, you have to understand that the pain medications are one of the leading problems and causes of addiction later to other medications, other drugs, street drugs, etc., and they get addicted to the pain medications. These things are nasty. Even an aspirin will cause—one aspirin will cause the intestines and the stomach to bleed, at least a—I’m sorry, a teaspoon of blood. They always cause damage.

Warren:

Ibuprofen is even worse, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I mean, I have only taken those things probably less than a handful of times. Maybe three times in my entire life. It really is something that I avoided, even when I was in a lot of pain. By the way, I remember crying of pain, so it’s giving into it. Unfortunately, for me, I thought surely this is going to work, and it didn’t. I mean, there’s a benefit there because I didn’t [00:24:03].

Warren:

I know that my dad, when he came off of—what’s the really bad one that everyone—oxycodone?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Warren:

When he was weaning off—even when he was weaning off, he got—it threw him into a fit of depression. I mean, he was just [00:24:18]. He had to up his dose and wean off at a higher dose to get him just feeling normal again. He thought he was actually dying. He was telling me I’m just really bad. I think I’m dying after—this is four months post the surgery. He was still on these things, and he’s like I’m getting off of those things. I heard they’re bad for you.

He didn’t tell me that. I mean, I didn’t know what he was doing. Then it just hit me. Did you get off your meds? He’s like, well, yeah. I was like let me look that up for you. Then it has symptoms, like major issues. People stay on them because now their body’s adapted, and they can’t live without them. It literally gets them depressed.

Then the other therapy, I think you were going there, is the magnets. Those things that go thump, thump, thump, thump. I had that therapy done a few times on my Achilles, on my plantar fasciitis. That really seemed to help too, those magnets where it pulses the magnetic energy. How does that work? I know that’s good for healing and pain.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. PEMF devices, people have been helped by those.

Warren:

P-M-E-F?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, P-E-M-F.

Warren:

PEMF.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, P-E-M-F.

Warren:

Got it.

Dr. Pompa:

There’s a lot of research on those as well. Now, most of those aren’t FDA approved, like the BEMER. I think that there’s several different routines in those categories, and not all of them are similar. Then, Warren, there’s another one that I want to talk about that really even goes beyond pain, and it’s cryotherapy. We’re going to be doing—I’m going to be interviewing the gentleman, the CEO of the largest cryotherapy place in the country. These things are popping up in every city, and basically, you’re getting in a chamber that has nitrogen gas. It gets the temperature to 150 to 250 below, and it’s dropping the body temperature by 35 to 45 is the goal.

What happens is is it downregulates inflammation throughout your body massively. I’ve experienced it, and I can tell you, it is—it has a profound effect even on your psyche. Yes. I mean, it does stimulate weight loss as well. I’ve gone there in massive pain. I pulled my arm, and we were away. That’s how I found one of these things. This guy said, oh, man. You got to go in there. I went in. In one treatment, I walked out pain-free.

I went and rode waves at the beach of [00:26:58], reinjured it, went back, and walked out pain-free a second time. I mean, I can attest to this that it works. Here’s one of the things that’s cool about it is, when you drop body temperature that fast, you create an adaptation in your body, and it stimulates a massive rise in growth hormones. You just get this euphoria. It also has an amazing effect on your hormones. I mean, the research is actually tremendous, as well as it helps change your microbiome.

Warren:

I was going to say that.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. The effect of microbiome in the…

Warren:

Elevation changes, cold, heat. You know what you just inspired me to do? I’m going to go get that work done today. I have an appointment. What I’m going to do right after my appointment—I’m going to ask this question to you live. After I get some muscle activation work—what is it called again, for our listeners? We’ll put this in the show notes, the A-I…

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, A-M-I-T, AMIT.

Warren:

A-M-I-T, after that treatment, I’m going to go get a cryotherapy because it’s right down the street here in the small town in Utah. When we come back…

Dr. Pompa:

I’m doing it three times week, and I’ll tell you; it’s transformative. It’s absolutely incredible. Athletes are doing it for recovery, and they’re recovering in half the time.

Warren:

Before we got into those announcements there, Dr. Pompa was continuing this new vogue super [00:28:40]. All the biohackers are doing it. A lot of the famous folks that are out there are doing it because it has a great effect, and that’s cryotherapy. Dr. Pompa, as we roll us through this last segment and then get into the supplement solutions, let’s close that loop on cryotherapy.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I mean, look, I’m doing it just three times a week now. I’m not in pain at all, but I’m doing it just for recovery from exercise and for the health benefits of it. I think it’s amazing. I mean, the price has come down to where you can pay a certain amount of month, whether it’s 200 or $300. I mean, there’s different things that they offer that you can also get and have as many sessions as you want.

Now, another exciting thing that I’d love to discuss is, right now, I’m literally traveling to Florida to meet with some of the world leaders here in stem cell. I’ve been researching stem cell the last year looking at some of these advancements where it is transformative, before and after MRIs and scans where, literally, tissue regrows, cartilage literally re-growing back. I’ll just share with you all what I found myself. That we used to—there was a lot of contraversy over the amniotic stem cells, and it works, right? There is controversy, so therefore, they’ve moved away from that. Then they started harvesting from people’s bone marrow, which was a little invasive. That was not an easy procedure. Then they went to the fat, which is easier. However, the effect wasn’t as good. It didn’t take as often.

Now, we are harvesting from placenta and even the cord blood. This company—placenta matrix, they are doing some amazing work in this area, so I’m going down to see it personally myself. I’m looking at their whole process, and I have a lot of questions because I’ve been reading for hours and hours on this topic. I’m going to say this; there is no doubt that this is transformative. Evidently, the placenta stem cells are the safest and most effective, so you get everything in one. I’m going to do a show on this when I’m down there, Warren. I’m going to do a Cellular Healing TV, interviewing these people and just trying to bring people just the best information.

Warren:

You should do a Facebook Live as well when you’re down there, just like a ten minute…

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Yeah. No. I will. I’ll do a Facebook Live.

Warren:

In the show notes too we’ll put Dr. Pompa’s fan page in there as well. I don’t know if it’s Dr. Daniel Pompa or Dr. Dan. I think it’s Dr. Dan Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

It’s Dr., dot, Daniel Pompa, and that’s my fan page, which I interviewed Jason West about the Prolozone therapy. You can watch that interview. It’s one of the last ones in still. I am going to be doing a Facebook Live from the cryotherapy place, so stay tuned for that if you’re on my Facebook Fan Page as well, and I will be doing one down here with the stem cell. Stem cell is beyond pain as well. Stem cell can activate the body into healing, and that’s what their stem cell does is it really just activates the body into, again, a healing mode so a lot here. I’m going to find out even more. That’s why I’m going, Warren.

Warren:

That’s awesome. This has been a packed—I mean, we’re talking lasers, magnets, PEMF, the treatment that I’m getting that I can’t remember, A-I-M-T, whatever, muscle activation. What is it?

Dr. Pompa:

AMIT.

Warren:

AMIT.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Then there’s the BEMER machine, which…

Warren:

A BEMER.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. There’s stem cells on that, the stem cells.

Warren:

Look in the show notes for more of the stem cells. Let me inspire everybody. I’m a little different than you. Dr. Pompa’s always all in when it comes to health and wellness. So am I. I guess maybe it was—I can’t explain it. Maybe it was age. I’m a little tighter with my wallet. Let’s just say that. Let’s not go there.

Dr. Pompa will jump in the plane to get a treatment if it’s another year away. I mean, he would jump on a plane to help, and I do too. We’re both health hunters. That’s why he’s down there hunting health in Florida. Maybe he’ll get a gator while he’s down there as well. However, when it comes to your health, man, you’ve got to invest into it. Let me inspire you guys before we get into supplements.

If you wait on these things, you really have to look at the long-term loss of life and the potential loss of fun and longevity and working with—and that’s another topic, longevity. I can’t wait to talk to him about that one. Dr. Pompa has landed freaking gold mine when it comes to longevity. We’re able to reverse aging, essentially, and extend your life with a new technique that Dr. Pompa is testing right now. I can’t wait to share that, so we’re speeding that show. Stay tuned. Share this with your friend.

As we move forward, Dan, I’m learning that investing into my health—once this hip thing happened, it triggered something in me and be like, man, I need to up my game, and I remember going to Jon Butcher’s class. Love Jon Butcher. Close friend of ours. His father owns and created Precious Moments out of his home, wonderful [00:34:23]. He had ten kids, Jon being one of them. He created Lifebook. I remember the thing that was holding my life back most was my health. I put a plan together, worked with Dr. Pompa, got some bloodwork done, and really made a plan to live my life on purpose to produce health in my life. I actually put it on paper. Here’s my plan, my supplements, all those things.

Speaking of supplements, Dr. Pompa, what are some of the best pain—I’ll share some of mine, whether it be high level magnesium, or CBD oil, or some of your products that you love to use.

Dr. Pompa:

High-level magnesium works good for muscle spasms. No doubt about it. Cannabidiol, CBD, I think that works good for just about—many different types of pain syndromes, as well as helps fix the gut, as well as really helps the hormonal system. There’s a lot of other benefits that cannabidiol, CBD—and no. It doesn’t have to have THC. It can absolutely be 100% CBD, which has no psychological effects at all. Just know that. We’ll probably get that question.

The cannabidiol is actually the part of the hemp plant, not the THC, that really downregulates inflammation the most, and really has the most profound effect. You all aren’t just getting high and saying, hey, my pain’s better. It really has the greatest effect on the inflammation. Yeah. I mean, that’s a biggie, Warren. I know that you put that together before at night, and it helps you go into a deeper sleep. Tell them your little concoction there because that concoction actually is really good for pain as well.

Warren:

CBD, you’ve got to—one thing you want to do is you want to cycle on and off it just like any powerful herb. This is a powerful herb. They would say this—our good friend Jack [Tips] was talking about this and talking about the pathways of cannabidiol oil.  Whatever, the cannabis cycle or the cannabidiol cycle in your body is very similar to coffee. It’s not something you want your body to adapt and depend upon. Not in an addictive way but in an adaptation way where the pathways are being stimulated too many times. You’re drinking coffee every day, every day. You’re not going to get the max benefit from coffee, which has health benefits. Nor would you get the max benefits by cycling on and off of cannabidiol oil, CBD oil.

I’m actually weaning off because I got to the point where, if I didn’t take cannabis oil at night, I didn’t sleep as well, right? It knocks me out. I’ve cycling off it, and then what I’ve added to it to really, really make a difference in my sleep—and you can cycle on and off of this doing CBD by itself and then adding tryptophan, taking several, a few hundred milligrams of tryptophan, which is precursor to serotonin and melatonin, correct, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes. Yeah. No. That is correct. Tryptophan in 5-HTP is a precursor to the tryptophan as well.

Warren:

Perfect. Then the other thing that I do a lot of because I still get some chronic headaches and stuff, what I take is the natural form of aspirin. I’m counting on your memory right now to remember. I always call it milk thistle, but milk thistle is for your liver.

Dr. Pompa:

White willow bark.

Warren:

White willow bark, you can get that at any Whole Foods. I hike that as well, so I don’t just take two. I take six. If I’m in an emergency and if I’m—I don’t travel that well, Dr. Pompa, so if I’m in a plane, sometimes I’ll have this chronic headache. Here I am. I need to talk to practitioners and people wanting information. I want to serve. Sometimes I’ll sacrifice and take an aspirin, you know? Not congruent at that point, but the lack of my ability to serve and make a difference, I just do it. I don’t do it often. Maybe once every couple of months I’ll pop a couple aspirin if I’m in that emergency state.

What I found is, if I drop in some of the white willow bark at high dose, I can avoid that almost every time, which has the—that’s how aspirin was formulated to begin with is the same natural chemical that’s found there. There’s some supplements and many solutions for pain. Health hunters, we appreciate you. Share this message with the world. Like us on Facebook. Like us on iTunes.