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Episode 15: Truth About GMOs

Warren:

Welcome, health hunters. Welcome, Dr. Pompa. It’s being called the biggest environmental disaster, Dr. Pompa. There’s a big environmental disaster. It’s global in most instances.

This isn’t like a federal used defense site where they spilled some stuff or a hazardous waste area. This is a global problem, and I guess it is a world-wide problem. That’s what we want to talk about. This could be all through the history of mankind if awareness isn’t brought up, if there isn’t some change, if there isn’t some study of this information, and that is the topic of genetically modified organisms.

As a health hunter, this topic, and I know you’ve interviewed some experts on this and other podcasts you’ve been on, we want to bring this to the forefront on Health Hunters. We also want to offer health hunters a free viewing of a new documentary called GMOs Revealed. I’ll just give that website right now; TruthAboutGMOs.com. They can go there and grab a free copy of that until August 22nd.

I’m sure they’ll have other viewings and things if you’re listening to this later after the live broadcast. Dr. Pompa, I know it’s a topic that you’re super passionate about and drive a lot of awareness to GMOs. Let’s dig in.

Dr. Pompa:

I’m looking at this title. This is actually from the Journal of Organic Systems. What they did was something that another researcher named Nancy Swanson did. They looked at correlation studies, which we can bore people with the science, the correlation on the science with GMOs and different diseases. There’s been studies linking it to dementia, Alzheimer’s, autism, there’s more and more things, and many different cancers.

There is an Italian scientist, [03:01], I believe is his name, that was one of the first to show tumors linked to GMO crops. Man, was he hammered. There’s been many studies showing the difference. I’m looking at this headline that says Dramatic Correlation Shown Between GMOs in 22 Diseases. Then when you look down at these graphs – I’ll just go through it.

When you look at these graphs, and you can’t see them on radio, but I can tell you what they look like. Something happens when the big use of glyphosates started in the 90s. From the late 90s to the 2000s you see this dramatic rise when you look at certain diseases correlated against glyphosate. If I just looked at these diseases, Alzheimer’s, autism, hypertension, intestinal infection, renal pelvic cancer, obesity, deaths due to obesity, Parkinson’s disease, deaths from senile dementia, deaths due to stroke, cancer incident rates, urinary bladder cancer; you could just keep going down the list of this direct correlation.

There’s a woman, she’s the senior scientist at MIT, Stephanie Seneff, who I’ve had the pleasure of interviewing. She’s had many studies showing how these crops and the chemical being sprayed on these crops – by the way, let’s explain what GMO is, Warren. I just raised some concerns, but some people are going I don’t even know what that is.

Warren:

I wasn’t nearly as concerned. Now I’m really concerned after you read that. This is quite the disaster, this GMO thing. What are the countries that banned them? Genetically modified organisms, let’s let our health hunters know really what this means and really what makes it so toxic to us and the environment and how it can cause all of these diseases.

Dr. Pompa:

I think there needs to be some understanding here because there’s something called hybridization where they can hit certain genes and plants with gamma rays, x-rays, and that’s a hybridization process where you can change something. You can take broccoli and make broccolini, for example. Maybe that’s not a good example.

Let me give you a better one that I know is accurate. You take wheat in the 70s, a guy named Norman Borlaug actually took wheat, some of these ancient grains of wheat like emmer and others, and he hit them with gamma rays, etc. Over some years it took him to develop a different wheat that wasn’t four to six feet tall, basically sensitive to environmental pressures like wind, drought, and then he created dwarf wheat through this process. Dwarf wheat, one of the problems is it created some gluten strains, 14 to be exact, that our systems don’t really recognize. Norman won a Nobel Prize because he did feed more people, truth be told.

The dwarf wheat was definitely a stronger plant, easier to harvest, many benefits. However, he created these gluten strains that our bodies definitely don’t recognize. If you have a leaky gut, and we’re going to talk about that because GMOs and the chemicals being sprayed on them can cause a leaky gut. Now you’re sensitive to these glutens. That’s hybridization.

Let’s look at GMOs, not hybridization. GMOs is much more dangerous than that, and it’s a genetically modified organization is what the GMO stands for. They take one DNA and they implant it into a seed. Now that plant grows with a new DNA attached with a specific function that it never had before. This is different. This is Franken-grains. Just so you know, we’ve created Frankenstein.

This wasn’t meant to be. We just didn’t hit something, and it changed itself. We added a DNA. For example, there’s a certain type of corn called BT corn that is genetically modified by a company called Monsanto who’s doing this work to basically produce its own chemical; therefore, be more resistant against other pests, etc. As it turns out, that has been shown to actually share its DNA, I think the publishing journal was Cell, with our gut bacteria.

Now we have gut bacteria that take on this DNA and become a pesticide factory in our own gut. Now our gut bacteria are producing the chemical, driving major gut issues. Monsanto really attacked that study saying that it wasn’t true. The problem is cross-kingdom fertilization or at least genetic transfer is happening. We know that’s true. That’s one bad thing about GMOs.

Another one is that they’ve also developed seeds, putting in this DNA, to be able resist more herbicide and pesticide called glyphosate, which is the number one pesticide/herbicide on the planet. It’s the active ingredient in Roundup. They developed this seed that can take more of their chemical. Guess who produces glyphosate? Yes, they do. Here’s the problem.

Warren:

We know who they is in this instance.

Dr. Pompa:

This is Monsanto. Sometimes we say they, and we don’t know. You’re right, Warren. This one we do. They produce the seed to be able to spray more of their chemical. Brilliant, actually from a marketing standpoint, I would have to say.

The problem is they can only hide from the studies so long because they said this chemical is safe, and we’re developing plants to take more of it. We’re going to solve the world hunger issue. We’re going to solve starvation. We’re going to solve crop problems, pest problems. There’s a bigger problem on this human experiment. We’ll talk more about that when we come back.

Warren:

Awesome, guys. This topic today, man, is it scary. We’re throwing around things like Franken-grains. It’s pretty scary what this is all about and what’s going on and just how crazy this whole thing is. Let’s continue down the path of what GMOs are and how they’re different than hybridization and how they’re really going to change the world for the worse.

Dr. Pompa:

We know this is a massive issue, and it is a great human experiment, unfortunately, gone wrong. The public is just now becoming aware of it. Monsanto now has spent millions of dollars covering up these studies. Not just covering them up, bad mouthing the scientists who’ve produced them. Their space is running out.

In Europe, GMOs have been banned. The chemical being sprayed on them, glyphosate, is being banned. Now there’s rumor that Bayer may buy out – someone said it did, so I don’t know, but they are buying out Monsanto. That would be an in to Europe. It’s not a good thing.

Right now the wines and the food coming out of Europe is much safer. We were at dinner the other night and a friend of ours, Garrett. His family stayed in Italy for a couple months this summer. He said it was remarkable. All of our health got better. His wife’s GI issues completely disappeared.

Here’s the amazing part; within one week back into the states – by the way, they’re educated about GMOs and this chemical being sprayed, and they avoid it. However, her digestion went again. He didn’t feel as well. What happened?

When people have gluten issues and they go over to Europe, they can eat gluten. They can eat the pasta and they say why am I not getting upset? It’s not just the gluten. The chemical being sprayed on all of nonorganic wheat, even to harvest it easier, it’s called desiccation. It shrivels it up, makes it easier to harvest, and they’re spraying the same chemical that they use to keep the weeds off and the pests on it to harvest it to increase profits.

Brilliant, another great thing; however, I mentioned Stephanie Seneff, the senior scientist at MIT. Her studies and now others are showing that this chemical is causing the leaky gut, causing these gluten proteins to cross our gut, creating all of these symptoms. That’s why everyone’s running from gluten. We need not to run from gluten as much as we need to run from GMOs and the glyphosate being sprayed all over them, the GMOs sharing their DNA with our DNA. This is creating a gut issue, so we’re focused on the wrong thing.

Gluten is not the problem. It’s this GMO issue. It’s the glyphosate. This is what we need to wake up in this docu series that’s free, by the way, with the link below. You will be able to hear from the scientists.

Many of them wept while giving their information during these interviews. I’m a part of the docu series, talking about some things that we need to do, not just avoidance, but detoxing the stuff from our cells. You can see my interview there too. It’s going to be nine days of these interviews. I’m on day two.

Warren:

You can register for free. You’re going to be hearing this – this is Saturday. It’ll launch on Monday, so you want to register right away if you’re listening to this, TruthAboutGMOs.com to get on there. I’m sure if you’re listening to this as a replay later on, not the live show, you will still be able to go there and possibly even purchase this for a small fee to watch all these interviews.

These are some of the best scientists in the world, very emotional, and it’s a big problem. Dr. Pompa, there’s two things. I think the bigger problem of the two, if you can say, is the glyphosate issue. Isn’t it three million pounds of glyphosate that has been sprayed or something like that?

Dr. Pompa:

It’s tons.

Warren:

I actually have the data right here. Three million pounds, which if you put it in tons, you just move the zeros. It stays in the environment for how many years, 50?

Dr. Pompa:

Fifty years, yeah.

Warren:

Fifty years this stuff sticks around destroying our gut bacteria as we know from other shows and things that we’ve done in the past. You know that your microbiome is your genetic code, so no wonder all these diseases are rolling out of it. Glyphosate may be the biggest issue, but you kind of alluded to this. You’re talking about the altered DNA that’s in a soybean, in corn.

How does that affect our DNA? Does it affect what we produce? What we eat tells our bacteria what to do. Our food can tell our genetics what to do. I don’t know that science as well as the glyphosate science, and I think that our listeners would be interested in your opinion.

Dr. Pompa:

My internet is being used for the radio show, so I can’t pull that up. Perhaps you can.

Warren:

I can because I have my phone.

Dr. Pompa:

I don’t remember exactly what the date of the first study done. I mentioned this at the top of the show. I gave the example of BT corn. It’s sharing its DNA with our gut bacteria. Then it’s causing our bacteria to produce the chemicals. I had already stated that.

The cross-kingdom, meaning it’s going from a plant to us, we know that – I think it was Cell that published that. You could pull that up right now because it was out there on the internet for quite some time. That was staggering. When people read that, they probably couldn’t even understand the impact.

When I read that, I literally was just oh, my gosh. What does this mean for generations? What does this mean for the second and third generation? What does this mean as far as epigenetics or turning on other genes? Nobody knows the long-term impact even now.

We can look at these studies and say this is what’s happening now, but what about the next generation? That may not concern some of you, but when you understand genetics, it sure should. When you understand how bacteria share their information with our cells, it absolutely should concern you.

Warren:

I just uncovered another thing that I know you’ve talked about, but I’m going to mention it here. Glyphosate and its affect on bacteria and pathogens and different things in poultry, and these are live in vitro studies how it affects the microbiome of other organisms. I didn’t even think about that because all this glyphosate is in the soil. Chickens are eating the soil. How does it affect their genetics and their microbiota?

It’s just altering freaking everything. I get really pissed when I see stuff like that. It’s scary. The ramifications, the unintended consequences, and this happens all the time.

We bring a bug or a plant that’s not supposed to be there. We think it’s going to be good, and we throw it in the environment, and it always causes a problem. Any time we alter what nature does, it always comes back. Nature always wins. It’s a force that takes either tens of thousands or millions of years, depending on your view, to adapt. We’ll come back and talk more about some of these studies and how it can affect your life.

When I’m looking this up, this is such a controversy because I just popped some of this stuff in here live. Some are saying that it does transfer. Some are saying that it doesn’t transfer. One calls it a conspiracy theory, the other doesn’t. Why would you call it conspiracy theory when there’s published journals out there saying that it does transfer?

That’s pretty scary stuff, how you’re saying that the DNA transfers over. There’s one study assessing the transgenic plant DNA in human gastrointestinal tract. There’s just so much research out there. Here’s some of the studies on glyphosate, maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides associated with genetically modified foods at Eastern Quebec.

Again, these are all not pro GMO. These are anti GMO research studies posted on an anti GMO site. Then there’s more. Glyphosate suppresses the antagonistic affect of this type of bacteria, Clostridium botulinum, glyphosate suppression on P450 enzymes. That is horrible.

Dr. Pompa:

Stephanie Seneff did that study and how it affects your detox. Then you start accumulating other toxins, which is one of the problems. She had a 2012 study that she showed how glyphosate opens up the blood brain barrier as well as your gut barrier. That’s what’s driving the epidemic of foods, food allergies and tolerances.

The brain in that study showed that it’s allowing things like heavy metals like mercury and aluminum to cross deeper into the brain, driving some of these neurological, neurodegenerative diseases that we’re seeing such a rise in. I interviewed her. You can see that on Cellular Healing TV on my website at DrPompa.com. I also interviewed a gentleman, and check out his book. It’s called Genetic Roulette. His name is Jeffrey Smith.

The book is really well written for the average person. You’ll see the studies talking about organ damage, the GI damage, immune system disorders, everything, infertility. He really does a good job of collecting the evidence. I think it’s written really well for the average person.

Watch the interview. I also interviewed him. In the docu series I’m day two, and it’s a guy named Zach Bush who is right before me was a cancer researcher. He ended up stumbling upon a product called Restore.

His studies show that glyphosate, this chemical that’s being sprayed on the GMOs, opens up the gut, causing things to move across the gut into the bloodstream. You can image how that would drive autoimmune, your own body’s immune system attacking itself, allergies, food intolerances, and other problems, inflammation throughout the body. This product that he discovered closes that tight junction, even in the presence of glyphosate. I interviewed him myself on Cellular Healing TV, but in the docu series you’ll see Bush, me, and Jeffrey Smith, who wrote Genetic Roullete and other as well. Just day two alone that I can speak of my day, you’ll get some really amazing information on this.

Warren:

If you’re listening to this – go ahead. You have a little bit of a delay here.

Dr. Pompa:

I just want to point this out. We were just at a conference. These doctors know the damaging effects of GMO, and it was a great lunch that was presented, but it had quinoa. Then I saw there were soybeans in there. I immediately asked the girl to find out if they were 100% organic soybeans because if they’re not, soy and corn guaranteed are going to be GMO and guaranteed to be sprayed with glyphosate.

Of course, she came back and said no, it’s not. Of course, I didn’t eat it. I was shocked. I was wondering how many other people ate it and didn’t even ask. If it’s corn, soy, you better not eat it unless it’s 100% organic. Otherwise you are being exposed.

The level of value here, I ask everything. I will not eat corn or soy in particular without knowing. My family at home, we eat 100% organic like yours, Warren. When you go out to eat, soy and corn, be on the alert because it’s most likely GMO.

Warren:

There’s two things you can make a decision that’s right for your health to decrease. We’re all getting exposed because it’s all through the environment. There’s glyphosate everywhere if you measure it in your soil, and there’s some studies on that we can talk about.

Dr. Pompa:

Sixty percent of rainfall.

Warren:

Think about it; our soils have bacteria and microbes and important things. Glyphosate is coming in and altering the nitrogen-fixing bacteria. Did you ever watch that movie, Dr. Pompa? I don’t know what the name of it is, but it essentially had the GMO crops and eventually the soils are being destroyed. There was famine across the world because of how they genetically modified all this stuff. It came back to bite them in the butt, if you will.

Now the world was going through starvation. They had to actually populate other planets. Isn’t that hilarious that a lot of the movies and things that are happening are actually true? If you look back at some of the crazy things that movies put out there, I don’t know if it’s because we put that out in the universe, whether it’s positive or negative, it happened like with artificial intelligence and now they’re self-replicating. Those are true things. It’s not conspiracy.

It’s not like robots are taking over the world, but this thing, when you think about the soil and what it does there and destroying nitrogen-fixing bacteria, our soils are being depleted of nitrogen. Of course, Monsanto will come in with their chemically engineered nitrogen, so the whole world’s going to need nitrogen. I think the world’s going to need a microbiome transplant. We’re going to need to find these bacteria and start making sure they’re in our soils because our bacteria in our soils, that’s what makes your grass grow, all of that.

We spray our grass with pesticides and herbicides, and we destroy the microbiome of our soil. That’s another big issue with glyphosate, so really scary. That product, I wanted to say, Dr. Pompa, will be in our show notes. Here’s a code for this. If you go to revelationhealth.com, there’s a coupon for that Restore product. I take it myself, and it’s awesome. There’s a coupon out there, it’s Restore 15. I just wanted to let the listeners know about that coupon because that’s the one I’ve used.

Dr. Pompa:

There’s another product. There’s two parts to the answer here, avoidance, and that’s why we do this show is to educate people. You have to eat 100% organic to limit your exposure. That does limit it dramatically, then getting the stuff out of the cells from the cell membranes.

CytoDetox is a product that our doctors are using all around the country to do that. It attaches the heavy metals as well, but glyphosate being part of it. What’s in this product is something they actually use in the environment to actually clean up glyphosate spills. I’m sure you’ll put something in the show notes about that, but I want to quote a former pro GMO research scientist. His name is Dr. Thierry Vrain, and he is a former scientist for agriculture in Canada.

He’s turned the other cheek on this whole thing after doing some of the science, looking at the science. This is his quote, “I refute the claim of the biotechnology companies, that their engineered crops yield more, that they require less pesticide application.” In other words they’re saying this yields more crops and requires less pesticide. “And that they have no impact on the environment, and that they are safe to eat.” The science literature is full of studies showing that the engineered corn and soy contain toxic and allergic proteins.

Warren:

That is scary, Dr. Pompa. When we come back, let’s continue this GMO Franken kill you [28:13]. Talk to you soon, guys. We’ll be right back.

This is our last segment of this how. Welcome back, health hunters. Dr. Pompa, from our gut to the soil to the GMOs themselves altering our genetics, causing pesticide factories within our own guts to what it’s doing to children and bacteria of other animals and altering their microbiome, which is altering their genetics, this is a GMO roulette. Is that Dr. Jeff who wrote that book?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes, that’s Dr. Jeffrey Smith.

Warren:

What’s the name of that book again?

Dr. Pompa:

Genetic Roulette.

Warren:

This game is a big deal. Any time you stand up for truth, you get haters. I know that Patrick Gentempo revealed [29:32], the documentary that you’re in, Dr. Pompa. He gets all kinds of conspiracy and hate mail. That’s normal because the rest of the world when you’re not down that path, again, we don’t fear it. We just take action.

It’s not like we’re running around living in a bubble. We realize this is what the world is. We’re trying to educate you, and that’s the last part of this show. What can you do to protect yourself from this? We’re enlightened in that area. We know what we’re doing.

We don’t ever eat nonorganic corn or soybean. We ask those things, take the corn out of the salad, take the corn out of X, Y, Z. If you’re eating the taco, you don’t know if it’s organic. Those are major things.  You’ve got to start asking questions.

We can help drive this market. Other countries have banned this stuff, so why not us? Why not the world? People know the science. If other countries are doing it, just because we live in the United States and we’re the big cash cow of the world doesn’t mean we have to not be led by other countries in this movement.

The other ones are mercury amalgam fillings banned in other countries. There’s no GMO corn in Italy. There isn’t gluten sensitivities when most people go to Italy. The writing is on the wall. What are some other things we can do, Dr. Pompa, to avoid? I know I mentioned a few right there. This is scary.

Dr. Pompa:

When you look at it, we buy wine now from Italy and Spain and France just because this stuff is banned. You have to understand that the studies are not being done here in the US. The studies are literally being done in these European countries, Russia and others. That’s why they’re banning them there.

Monsanto keeps putting out studies paid for by them and the companies associated with them, so beware, follow the money trail, that their stuff is safe. When you read things out there, this study shows you better sniff it out a little deeper. When you look at more independent studies, then you get a different answer. Be really cautious and aware

I’m going to say one thing from the gentleman, Dr. Thierry Vrain, former research scientist for GMOs. He says, “In the last ten years, I’ve changed my position. I started paying attention to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious labs and published in prestigious scientific journals that question the impact and safety of engineered food.”

This is out there, but the studies, Monsanto is doing them here trying to show the opposite. Most of these other studies are coming from Europe where it’s already been banned. There’s a lot of deception. When you get on Google, be aware. Follow the money trail.

Warren:

It’s funny, when you stand for truth, they just call you a heretic and throw the baby out with the bath water. Any time you stand for something that’s against the media powers, if you will, their answer is their studies that they fund, and that you’re a conspiracy. It’s conspiracy people that keep us balanced. They go out there and definitely investigate and bring attention and sometimes they’re making money on websites on the conspiracy side.

We know for sure that Monsanto, when you have that sort of cash, just like vaccines and all this stuff that’s out there, we did it with asbestos. We can’t cover that up too much. We’re not going to cover up mercury amalgam fillings forever. We’re not going to cover up this glyphosate because it’s going to be a major issue that we’re all going to have to face.

If we stand up, hopefully Monsanto will find some other way to make money besides poisoning us. Maybe we can help switch them. They’re smart. They have a lot of scientists. Let’s drive them to another learning or strategy that can be used to support world hunger, if you will. Maybe they can start figuring out bacteria back in soils and start farming God’s way like we learned in Africa.

Dr. Pompa:

Education is key, but you have to understand that this is the power of a company that has this much money. In a place like California, you’d think how does a labeling bill – all they wanted to do is label products that contain GMO. This product contains GMO. If your product is so great, wouldn’t you want it labeled?

They weren’t saying warning. They were just saying this product contains GMO. Just in Oregon, it’s $20 million to prevent the labeling. I can’t remember how many million it was in California, ridiculous amounts that they spent to win that battle. Unfortunately, they won. You’re not allowed to label a product.

Everybody should always want something labeled. Let the public make the choice. If your product is so good, then why wouldn’t you want it labeled? They didn’t, and they’ve been winning across the United States. That’s what we’re facing.

Warren:

Major contradiction. They want to hide GMOs through all these different foods. The food manufacturers who are out for money get this stuff at massive rates. The government funds corporate farming, and you have to hit a certain volume or have a certain acreage, and a lot of this grain is in over production. We have excess of food in this world because they have to make it to be able to get the subsidies from the government.

You have to make a certain amount. You have to farm a certain amount, so GMOs are involved with all of that. Now you have all this extra corn. Some of the extra corn we give away, so now we’re poisoning other countries. We gave away mercury-laden grain back in the day.

Then it gets into corn syrup. There’s mercury in corn syrup. There’s glyphosate in corn syrup. This stuff is causing massive issues, and we need to share this and create more awareness. There’s the GMO project. There’s a lot of great forces against this. That’s why you got the honor of being part of GMOs Revealed.

Dr. Pompa:

One of the things that Patrick, who’s one of the producers of GMOs Revealed, said that’s so true, you want to understand the power of Monsanto? They own the patent on these seeds. What happens is that this GMO crop is growing here. The seeds blow over, which is normal and natural, to the farmer next to it who’s not using their crop. They find that their crop starts growing in their crops and cross-seeding.

Guess what? That farmer gets sued because they didn’t pay or they have to pay for the patent rights, even though they don’t want anything to do with GMOs. It’s like the mafia. They show up with their big high-priced attorneys. They’re putting farmers out of business.

I remember we were doing a talk in the Midwest, if you remember, in Minneapolis. The doctor, her father’s a farmer. He said we can’t even get anything but GMO corn seed now. That’s all we can get. It’s horrific. Meanwhile, he’s crippled with arthritis.

These farmers are going down. They’re being controlled by Monsanto. Just watch the docu series. Don’t take my word for it. All I can tell you to do is educate yourself. I hope when you educate yourself that when you’re in line anywhere, you’re asking questions. Is this 100% corn, soy, whatever it is.

By the way, the oils, you have to watch the oils. All the vegetable oils contain the corn oil, the soy oil, which is all GMO, creating these bad proteins. When you insert one DNA, you’re not just inserting one protein. It shares other proteins, causing other functional issues, toxic proteins, everything that your immune system reacts against. The problem is this is a huge issue that is creating a massive epidemic.

When you look at statistics like dementia statistics, Alzheimer’s, and autism, it seems stunning. By 2032 if it keeps escalating like it is right now, autism will be 1 out of 2 in children. I didn’t even believe this statistic unless you actually look at the numbers, you look at what’s happening with glyphosate. The escalation of vaccines and other heavy metal exposures, this generational problem right now, we have to face with our generation.

Warren:

All right, everybody. To learn more about the dangers of GMOs, go to TruthAboutGMOs.com, and we’ll educate you more through that docu series. It’s amazing. See you on the next show, guys. Thanks for joining Health Hunters this week.