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Episode 6: Sun and Skin Cancer Myths

Warren:

All right. Do you realize it’s summertime, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, it definitely feels like summer to me.

Warren:

It doesn’t look like summer outside. It doesn’t look like summer. It’s raining and an arid environment here up in Utah at the offices for us, so I think we need to go talk about sunshine.

Dr. Pompa:

People don’t know you moved. People don’t know that you moved. Before, you were in one place, and I was in another, so—

Warren:

Yeah, so now we’re not too far away. We’ve got the new office opened up here, and I’m excited, because it’s sunny here. When I lived in Pennsylvania or had the office main location over there in Pennsylvania, there wasn’t much sunshine, and one of the reasons I wanted to get a place, have an office out west, is to get more exposed to sunshine, so let’s just give an example. In Pittsburgh, there’s 60 days less sunshine than here where we live out in Utah or where our offices are located, so why is that important? Because people are afraid of sunshine, and I want to tackle that topic today, because they’re lathering and slathering, as I go to the beach or wherever I go, all this sunscreen, sprays.

Do you ever get the downwind of somebody spraying their kids with the sprays, and you’re coughing and sneezing, and your body’s reacting, and you’re hacking up a lung, because the mom is being a good mom, in her mind, and putting all this sunscreen spray all over her son and herself? Is that safe? Is it the right thing, and what is that doing on this topic today, a health hunter topic of sunshine, cancer, and vitamin D, and what are we doing as a health hunter? We’re health hunters, so we always bring it back to the truth, and back, say, even 60 years ago, when sunscreen wasn’t invented, tribes that ran around both in the northern and southern climates, they didn’t have this stuff, and skin cancer likely did not exist, so we may be doing something wrong with this whole sun scare that we’re propagating out there, so—

Dr. Pompa:

Look, I think we’re—

Warren:

As the expert here, Dr. Pompa, get after this one.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I think when you look at why people are slathering themselves, I think it’s two reasons. Number one, they fear skin cancer, or they say, I don’t want to prematurely age my skin, etcetera, so there’s the two biggest reasons anyway. If you believe that the sun is bad or potentially bad, then you’re going to slather the skin cancer—look, this show’s important if you’re concerned about skin cancer. The truth is going to surprise you. This show’s important if you’re concerned about aging prematurely. The answer’s going to surprise you, and with new research just in the last few years, we’re going to realize, so hang in there, because we’re going to talk about this in the last segment, just that your lights in your home are affecting your hormones, affecting your sleep, potentially creating more anxiety, and how the sun plays a role in this and how it can offset this, so a lot of new research, Warren. I think this show’s going to shock a lot of people in a lot of different ways, so this one, no doubt, you’re going to tell people to watch and listen to. Watch, because we sometimes tape these shows.

Warren:

The cool thing is you hang out—someone might’ve started off, and we’re talking about sunshine. Oh, yeah, I’ve heard of that. Yeah, we don’t want to put sunscreen. We use shea butter. That’s not this show. There’s a lot of new research, like you’re saying, even the light in your home, LED lights, some of the negative effects of that, so there’s a lot to unpack here, so get ready. This is the cutting edge when it comes to light, light therapy, vitamin D, sunshine, cancer, all the things that you need to know to take your health and life to the next level, because if you don’t dive into these topics—did you ever ask yourself a question? I did. When I bought LED lights, Dan, I bought LED lights in my whole home, because I’m like, ooh, I want to be energy-efficient. I want to be part of the not hurting the environment by obviously mercury bulbs. That can be another—I don’t want to get off on light bulbs, but I never questioned it, and it needs to be questioned.

As a health hunter, we want to question things. We want to seek and find real solutions here, so I’m really excited, and I know that you’ve had multiple conversations with world experts on this topic, including Dr. Joe Mercola and some of the others out, even with Ben Greenfield, who is a biohacker friend of ours. They really discuss these things in detail, and you’ve interviewed quite a few people on this topic that are experts, even going back to our last show when you discussed the GMO, the glyphosate lady, the research lady, and I gave—

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, Stephanie Seneff. Yeah.

Warren:

Stephanie Seneff, because of sunshine and something called cholesterol sulfate, so that all kind of wraps in together in this show, so let’s start off with the producer of all light, the sun, and the importance of it, vitamin D, and does it really cause cancer? Let’s just, for the newbies on the show, for the young health hunters that are being trained up in the way—let’s talk about that and move forward with some of these more cool, new topics that we can bring into the show today.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, when you look at the sun, again, in the last ten years, I would say, on the sun, we’ve learned just how important it is. You can’t make vitamin D without the sun, so we try to take vitamin D, and most people, by taking vitamin D pills and saying, well, I’m fine, because I’m avoiding the sun, using sunscreen—when you use sunscreen, you don’t make vitamin D, but they’re taking the pills. They’re creating something called a functional deficiency, so when you take vitamin D, and I don’t want to go down this road, but I’m going to make it very simple. You block other receptors for fat-soluble vitamins, for example vitamin K, vitamin A, and that’s why they used to think that, by taking vitamin D, you would actually create more fractures, including hip fractures and/or cancer. Many doctors believe that today, but it’s not the vitamin D. It’s because when you’re taking vitamin D without taking vitamin K, vitamin A, vitamin E—those are all fat-soluble vitamins that all compete for the same receptors, and when you take vitamin D without those, you’re blocking those other vitamins, so for example, vitamin K you need to actually absorb calcium, and that’s how, by taking vitamin D, it actually can lead to more fractures, the opposite of what people think. 180-degree solution right there.

Also, when you take vitamin D by itself, you’re blocking vitamin A receptors, which is why taking vitamin D can lead to cancer. By taking vitamin D, it does not substitute the sun, and look, first of all, again, we’ve learned a lot in ten years. We know that it’s more than just vitamin D, right? We know that the sun is offering certain wavelengths that downregulate inflammation, certain wavelengths we need to make energy in our cells, certain wavelengths that really help our brain work better.

You mentioned cholesterol sulfate. Stephanie Seneff, that senior scientist out of MIT, has shown that sunlight is needed to combine cholesterol and sulfur, sulfate in our skin. That’s where that happens, and we need this cholesterol sulfate for all of these things in our cells to work, even how hormones work, and for us to downregulate inflammation in our brains, all of these processes. We had no idea that the sun did this, so the point is, avoiding the sun is affecting, yeah, vitamin D levels, which we know is a prohormone and responsible for inflammation or anti-inflammation, but also all these other hormones and all these other brain chemicals and all these other responses in the cell, so we need the sun.

Then, people are going to ask, okay, but I’m still afraid. What about cancer, Warren? Isn’t that why most people are slathering sunscreen? Look, more and more studies—we’ll talk about it after the break, because there’s that lovely music, but let’s look at really what the studies show on skin cancer and the sun, so we’ll talk about that when we get back.

Warren:

We’ll be coming right back after this short announcement from our sponsors, guys. Get ready.

Dr. Pompa, in fact, our skin is our largest organ, and it’s like a mouth. Anything you put on it actually goes into your body and your bloodstream. Wouldn’t sun almost be like food to our bodies and the health benefits of sun? I know that we’re going to get into the cancer thing, but this isn’t making sense to me, because this sun scare when you know that your skin has been designed and in harmony with nature, and to think that it’s bad is really confusing to me, so I kind of like that analogy of your skin being a mouth and the sun being something that’s feeding it, because you just said there’s so many other—to review our last segment, there’s so many other health benefits than just this magical vitamin D. There’s countless—you started going into them—benefits of the sun, activating all kinds of mitochondrial function, hormone creation. I mean, it is endless, yet it still causes cancer? That’s hard for me to believe that the sun causes cancer, and so I’d like you to unpack that a little bit more, even for me.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, when you look at—oh gosh, there was a study some years ago where they looked at the lifeguards from different places of the world, Australia, etcetera, and the results were pretty stunning, that basically skin cancer was much higher rates of men and women working in office buildings than these lifeguards and people who are outside constantly, so I’m going to say that, look, nobody should burn their skin. If your skin gets pink or beyond even to red, you’re burning your skin. You should be and can be in the sun without that occurring.

It doesn’t take much sun exposure or time in the sun to really make this magic happen, and I’m going to say this, though. The darker your skin, the more sun exposure you need, so therefore, someone with dark skin, brown, olive, black skin, is going to need far more sun and therefore greater danger of these deficiencies the further north they move, so when you look at it, you say someone who has brown skin living in Canada, this is someone who can and will become very severely vitamin D and just deficient in the sun—we could talk about a sun deficiency—and therefore actually has a higher cancer risk, so if you have dark skin, and you live in northern climates, you better be going on vacation. You better be exposing yourself to the sun as much as you can, and the amount of skin exposed is important. It’s not going to work just with a pair of shorts and your arms hanging out. You have to get more skin exposure than that, so you start by maybe it’s just ten minutes a day, especially if you have very light skin.

Here’s the good news. If you have very light skin, Warren, like you, you don’t need a lot of sun exposure, very little time, because your body, your skin will actually process things very quickly. If you’re saying, yeah, but I’m so fair-skinned, I can’t spend a lot of time in the sun, no, that’s exactly right, you don’t need to, so five, ten minutes of full sun exposure could be enough. Then, of course, you can work up in time. Your body adapts with melanin that comes to the skin’s surface, and you get a little darker each time, and therefore you’re able to expose yourself more, and again, it’s more than just vitamin D.

Warren:

That kind of slows the process down? Does it slow the vitamin D process as the melanin comes out and say I get tan? That means I can spend more time in the sun, so it kind of slows down the vitamin D conversion and all that.

Dr. Pompa:

It does, but remember, it’s not just about vitamin D. You’re still getting these other benefits of these other things. We talk about the benefits of a far infrared sauna. Okay, well, the sun has the perfect amount. Oh, what about near infrared? We know that it’s anti-inflammatory. We put near infrared on injuries, and it feels better. The sun has that perfect amount. We can look at these different wavelengths and realize that the body needs them. The cells need them to function, and yet the sun has the perfect amounts in the perfect balance, so it is more than just vitamin D, but we need these exposures to the sun. If you’re slathering on sunscreen—I saw it happen the other day. These women were getting out of the car, and they were just dousing themselves with sunscreen, and I’m thinking, my gosh, they’re that fearful. I knew fear drove this response, because they probably had a spot on their skin, and their doctor said to avoid the sun. Sounds like really good advice because of some of these studies that show that sun can cause this oxidative process in the skin and drive melanomas, basal cell carcinomas, squamous cell carcinomas.

By the way, those are the three main types of skin cancer. You have a basal cell carcinoma, which is probably 80 percent of skin cancers. Then, you have your squamous cells. Those are probably the deeper-growing ones that can be very dangerous, and of course, melanoma’s the one that is less. I think it’s under two or three percent of skin cancers but the one that can really get people in other areas, metastasize, etcetera. We fear those skin cancers, but when we look at those studies closely, there’s always another underlying issue, so what we’ve learned is it’s not just the sun.

People who eat a bad diet, who are eating a standard American diet where they’re eating a lot of glucose and sugars and bad fats, we know that the cells under the skins, they don’t react normal to the sun and therefore get oxidized very easy with just one more oxidative factor, and that can be the sun, whereas when you’re eating a good diet, you’re nontoxic, so to speak. Now, your cells respond correctly to the sun, and the danger’s almost nil, so we can’t separate a good, healthy lifestyle with the sun. Okay, well, I’m eating the standard American diet—

Warren:

Big variable there. Big variable.

Dr. Pompa:

Right. Big variable. Here’s my advice. If you’re eating the standard American diet, yes, please, do not let your skin even get pink, because your chances of oxidizing and creating a bad cell can be very good, but you could still get the sun. Just don’t get pink. Now, someone who’s eating a very healthy diet, they can get their skin pink and even red, and they end up with no damage or risk of cancer, so the diet plays into this, too, Warren. That’s why the studies are very confusing, you see, because people will say, yeah, but I read this study, and look, they did this group. Okay, you’re doing with average Americans that, yes, they are already oxidative nightmares at the cellular level, and the sun may be damaging.

Warren:

They’re not healthy.

Dr. Pompa:

Absolutely. Yeah, so we can’t separate this, so that’s why the studies are confusing, Warren, when we look at both sides of this issue.

Warren:

That makes total sense to me, but here’s the thing. As you were talking about this, the question I would have is, so I go out in the sun for ten minutes without any sunscreen on. Okay, it’s time for the lather-up. Even healthy—let’s just go to healthy—we can go to both sides, because you can go both places, but I’m going to talk about healthy ones, so I put on a zinc oxide. Now, I’m out in the sun for—I got a—I’m a healthy eater, right? I eat high fats, which actually, I think—you didn’t mention this, but I believe, when you eat a higher-fat diet, and you have good fats in your cells, you don’t burn. When we come back, I want to discuss, does sunscreen really help prevent the cancer?

Dr. Pompa:

More and more experts—I’m going to leave it at this. More and more experts feel that sunscreen is actually causing more cancer than the skin. We’ll talk about that when we get back.

Warren:

Awesome.

All right, here we go. Welcome back to Health Hunters. In the first two segments here, we’re really building a case that sun is healthy, and you need a certain amount of exposure to sunshine for multiple benefits, not just the vitamin D issue and vitamin K, as Dr. Pompa mentioned earlier in the show, but now we also said, if you’re eating a bad diet, maybe even a healthy diet, getting burnt isn’t good, so here comes the sunscreen. I’m not talking even putting a shirt on. We can go into those topics, being in the shade, all those things, but let’s hit this topic of sunscreen on the third segment.

Dr. Pompa:

Look. Let’s look at this paradoxical information here. I fell on this study. It’s a 2004 study, and this is in the medical journal, Lancet. It’s one of the most prestigious, as you know.

Warren:

Yeah, it’s a big one.

Dr. Pompa:

It showed that indoor workers were twice as likely to get skin cancer as those who spent more time in the sun. Okay, so outdoor workers have a decreased risk of melanoma compared with—and I’m reading from the study—compared with indoor workers, suggestive that chronic sunlight exposure can have a protective effect. Lack of sunlight means the lack of vitamin D, and they go into all these reasons why they realized this in this study. That’s one. Okay, now here’s another one. That one, we go, hmm, that makes us think about it, so here’s another one. Here’s another thing that we all need to think about. Okay, these are facts, folks, so think about this. The U.S. Centers of Disease Control, that’s the CDC. They’re the ones protecting us. Rates have doubled in the last 30 years for skin cancer, okay? Skin cancer has doubled in the last 30 years.

Here’s the statistic that I think will blow most of your minds away. The use of sunscreen has also doubled. Okay, so we’re using more sunscreen, yet we’re getting double the amounts of skin cancer. You see the point. More and more experts, if we put that in quotations, are realizing that it’s not so simple just to say that the sun causes skin cancer, realizing that lifestyle choices actually play a far more greater role, and Bernard Anchorman, he’s a medical doctor, and he’s called the father of dermatology. He specializes in these types of topics, obviously skin cancer. He concluded that the sun actually plays a very small part in why people are getting skin cancer, so again, they’re looking at realizing that sunscreen itself is actually playing a huge role in this increase in skin cancer. Look, I think you alluded to it, Warren. One of the reasons why, which I’ve read in some studies, and I don’t have them in front of me, is the fact that we block—the UVB rays are the ones that potentially burn us.

Warren:

UVB.

Dr. Pompa:

I always remember that because UVB, burn, right? The UVA rays have other benefits and also can cause different damage, actually can cause premature aging of the skin, so we block the UVB with our sunscreen. That’s what it’s designed to block, and the UVA is the one that stimulates the melanin and actually can make us tan, so that’s why we put the sunscreen on. Hey, we don’t get burned, and we get a little bit tan.

Warren:

Perfect.

Dr. Pompa:

The problem is—yeah, perfect until you read more studies and realize the imbalance of UVB and UVA. We’re realizing the UVA without the UVB, we’re getting far greater time of exposure of the UVA, because we’re blocking—

Warren:

We have sunblock on.

Dr. Pompa:

Right. We can stay out in the sun all day and not get burned, but this—

Warren:
Yeah, [00:22:41].

Dr. Pompa:

—is the UVA day in and day out.

Warren:

Day in and day out. Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

The UVA—yeah, and the UVA is getting through and other wavelengths as well that are driving problems that we didn’t see without being burnt. Now, we realize you’re still causing cancer. You’re still causing cellular issues, basically. Yeah, there’s documented—

Warren:

[00:22:58] to get burnt, because now you’re like, I can’t go outside, I’m so burned. Your body’s saying—it’s talking to you, as it does so often, and we ignore it and give it drugs and sometimes supplements to get rid of the symptoms, but your body’s talking to you, and by eliminating that symptom, the burning feeling, doing something unnatural, here we are again, Dr. Pompa, getting outside of how God designed our bodies to react by covering a symptom essentially with sunscreen, but now we’re back out, on vacation, getting massive amounts of UVA and getting that imbalance and causing something abnormal in our body.

Dr. Pompa:

Then, here’s another topic, Warren. We look at the chemicals in this, which, again, we’re just learning about these chemicals more, because it takes years to fund and do studies. OMC is a chemical that blocks those UVB rays that I was just talking about. Well, guess what? In new studies, it’s been shown to kill mouse cells even at very low doses, and here’s the other problem. In the presence of sun, it becomes more toxic, and then, if you look at the label of your sunscreen, you see titanium dioxide in every one of them. Well, guess what? Another known carcinogenic, so we look at these ingredients. Go to the Environmental Working Group, okay? EWG, it’s called, right? You can go to their site.

Warren:

Ewg.org, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes, exactly, dot org, and you can look up these ingredients, and you can see for yourself the studies linked to that, so there’s many of these ingredients, the benzos. These are like—there’s one called oxybenzone that’s in all of these sunscreens as well, and it’s a hormone disruptor, and there’s many more hormone disruptors, so again, I think when you—

Warren:

Like fragrance.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, absolutely, and then, like you said, the spray now—so we’re spraying these chemicals. Everyone downwind—I run when I hear—I hear that ssss. I don’t know how they—you’d think a bomb was ready to go off, because in my mind, because I read the studies, a bomb is going off. I get the heck out of there, because breathing these into your lungs, it’s immediately into the bloodstream and even more toxic. Those lung tissues and cells are very, very sensitive. Now, if you rub this on your skin, you’re absorbing it right into your blood as well, but the lung tissue is even more fragile.

Warren:

We can’t smoke outside, being—I’d rather smell someone’s cigarette for a minute or two than breathe that in and those few chemicals than—I’m trying to stay [00:25:37] and then breathe that in. Me personally, if I saw that, with all those chemicals, and breathing that in, I think it would—if there was a measure of toxicity level—with cigarette smoke, they’re thinking chronic exposure to the chemicals inside of cigarettes and all of those bad things in there, because you’re doing it every day, but it’s toxicity exposure when it’s—you’re PEP or PELs, right? If you spray that all day, you would obviously—they wouldn’t allow that, but they’re thinking, oh, in that short little dose, it’s okay for your body, but add that to everything else you’re doing on a daily basis and how all those chemicals are building up in your body. You heard the story that was out there, Dr. Pompa, that someone spraying that Axe spray actually died because he sprayed so much of it. I think he passed out and hit his head. I’m not sure how he died.

Dr. Pompa:

I’m not laughing because someone died. I’m laughing because when we smell that particular Axe cologne—

Warren:

Body spray. Yeah. It’s the worst.

Dr. Pompa:

It is, and we had a little saying about that, but anyway, yeah, another topic. Okay, I think because the last segment, we have, I think, some really new research that I think will shock most people, and I think we can give you some great pointers to bring your health to another level, even in your sleep, which will bring everything to the next level, but let’s talk about some solutions. The zinc oxide you mentioned, it’s actually a really good solution, because—

Warren:

Is it a UVBer as well?

Dr. Pompa:

No, but it blocks everything. It blocks the UVAs, which we now realize actually can cause the cancer. Yeah.

Warren:

Zinc oxide.

Dr. Pompa:

It really blocks almost everything, so it’s kind of like wearing clothing, and that’s the best thing to do, get under an umbrella, get under clothing, something that blocks more uniform, everything. Zinc oxide would do that, so that’s actually safe, and then we have some other natural things like shea butter, which has a block, a real even block of everything, but it doesn’t block everything perfectly, so you still get some sun exposure with something like coconut oil or shea butter. It doesn’t just block the UVB. You can get burnt with that stuff, because sun does get through, and by the way, your healthy diet—people that eat a healthy diet, absolutely they don’t burn the same as people who don’t and definitely less skin cancer on studies, so there’s three big tips. When we come back, listen to this, because you could make your house safe when right now it’s not safe, because the lights inside your house are a problem.

Warren:

Loving it, Dr. Pompa.

Man, oh, man, this is one of the most exciting shows I think I’ve ever been on, Dr. Pompa. I’m learning so much today and being reminded of some of the things I once knew, because I haven’t gone back on this topic. We thought we were just talking about vitamin D, skin cancer, and the sun. Whatever. This is a really hot show for our Health Hunters listeners. Let’s get into some of this cool, new research. We’ve got some natural solutions for when you go outside, shea butter, and there’s organic shea butter, which is crazy. You can get it anywhere now. Coconut oil, of course. It’s everywhere, and ingesting that coconut oil could probably also help with the fats and the lipids in the skin and preventing burning, right? You kind of allude to that.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Healthy fats are really important, because we know that, when you’re eating unhealthy fats, the manmade fats especially and vegetable oils, canola oil, these fats actually really affect the skin and the cells in the skin and cause them to oxidize more easily, so yes, eating good fats—and please don’t be afraid of your saturated fats in grassfed butter and grassfed meat. Those are very protective, and like you mentioned, coconut oil, avocadoes, all of those are really good fats that help protect you from the sun on your skin and obviously eating them. All right, so—

Warren:

Another good point. Eating healthy fats can help you with your tan. See, there, that’s what we need, because all of us—

Dr. Pompa:

That’s it. That’s right.

Warren:

All of us want to look better, look younger, and everyone looks more sexy with a tan, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Getting your skin tan is very healthy, right? Obviously, there’s a level of protection. I can go out in the sun—

Warren:

I just want to look more cut. That’s my thing.

Dr. Pompa:

—for hours at a time, because my skin is just—obviously, I spend time in the sun, and I have that natural protection. All right, so look, you had said I interview some of these experts on these topics, and an interview that I had interesting lately is a gentleman named Dr. Jack Kruse. He started the interview, I think—well, I kind of set him up for it, to be honest, because I read all his stuff, and I knew his views, so I asked him this question. Doc, what’s more important, food or light? I just charged him, because he would call people like us foodies, meaning that we’re all about the food as being healthy, and so I set him up for it. He said, of course, it’s light that’s more important than food. I’m not going to make the argument one way or another. I think both are extremely important, but Jack feels light is more important than food, and he went on—

Warren:

It’s back to my old topic where I said the skin is your mouth, and the sun is food. See? I made that connection.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, right, Jack would agree. He went on with the show, and he quoted some really convincing studies that the light in our homes, these lights that now—you said at the top of the show, we’ve moved to fluorescent lighting. More efficient, etcetera—

Warren:

Even LED.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, well, the LEDs have such—if you look at the frequencies, you can literally hold an instrument up. Remember Mercola doing that at our seminar?

Warren:

I do.

Dr. Pompa:

He held an instrument up that he had to the lights in the room, and it really compares it to the sunlight spectrum of wavelengths, and these LEDs are the worst. They’re completely out of balance from what the sun looks like. Then, you look at a halogen, and a halogen is a little better but still completely out of balance from what the sun looks like. Then, you look at the old, incandescent lights that I guess the political movements will get rid of these horrible lights that are causing problems in our environment. It’s been the opposite, by the way. The other ones contain mercury. The incandescents don’t, and the incandescents actually resemble the sun the most out of any lighting. Of course, it’s not perfect. However, it’s not to the point of causing damage, so the imbalance—

Warren:

Let’s be conspiracy theorists. Is that why they’re outlawing these incandescent bulbs and pushing everybody? I’m just stoking the fire.

Dr. Pompa:

Some would argue yes.

Warren:

Yeah, because they’re saying the environmental movement, so they’re using something good to put us fearful, and we want to get around the cause. That’s how you influence people in any way. You create a cause, and then, because of that cause, you can get them to take action and do things, so now we’re using that to remove incandescent bulbs, but is that making America sick, causing to drive—I’m not saying, because I’m not going there, because I just focus on solutions and not necessarily the problems, but my head could put that together, so anyway—

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, no, look, I’m not going to argue why. I think it’s all about profits, personally, but yeah, I’m sure there’s some out there that feel that our government’s trying to kill us, and I think indirectly it could look that way, but the bottom line is that, if you watch the interview with Jack—brilliant guy, by the way—it’s on Cellular Healing TV, which is on our website, drpompa.com.

Warren:

Cellular—yeah. You can go to cellularhealing.tv as well. Cellularhealing.tv, and this show is healthhuntersradio.com. We’ll have everything in the show notes from this show built out and transcribed by [00:33:54].

Dr. Pompa:

Watch the interview. I think you’ll learn a lot. I think it’s a shocking interview. I think it’s—

Warren:

Really.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah.

Warren:

Yeah, it went really viral, too. It’s a great show.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, and it’s because the information is shocking to us, but here’s the bottom line. Let me bring it to why it matters to you, right? You’re spending days under these lights now. This is a new thing, these lights. Before, we had all incandescent. Now you can’t even get them unless you buy them on special sites, and you’re in these lights, exposure to these different wavelengths too much, just like we said, too much of the UVA, because we’re blocking the UVB with the sunscreen. It causes cancer and all these imbalances. Same with the lights. We know this, that when you look at the imbalance of too much blue light—now, the Harvard study, this is pretty convincing, showed that, when we’re looking at our screens, our cell phones, our computers, and even the imbalance of blue light in our homes, too much of the blue light stimulates certain things like cortisol and can actually keep us more awake, so we get a lot of blue.

Now, the sun has blue light. That’s why, when it comes up in the morning, it stimulates cortisol. We get up. At night, we’re looking at our screens that have a predominance of this blue light, and now it affects our melatonin production as well, so we have receptors in our eyes, and now we’re crushing our melatonin production, which is how we get to sleep, so it completely throws off our hormones, our sleep, and even affects our deep sleep. Now, we get most of our deep sleep, this recovery sleep—this is how our muscles recover, our bodies, our cells. We heal our bodies in this deep sleep, which happens in the beginning of the night, so when you’re looking at your computer screens, your TV, whatever it is, you can actually affect this melatonin and affect our deep sleep and therefore our recovery, so you can see how this would lead to many health problems. What do you do about it? That’s the thing. You need some—

Warren:

Everyone’s watching TV before bed, and now the new TVs are LED, because they’re better density, so they’re just blasting us with this unhealthy, nonnatural light.

Dr. Pompa:

The further away, the better, so distance is your friend, so your screen in your cell phone is really bad.

Warren:

The iPad’s not good next to me in bed. That’s bad.

Dr. Pompa:

No. Yeah, so there are some protective things you can get for your screens. Matter of fact, just as a starting place, if you have an iPhone, you can go in and actually turn off—you can put a protection on your phone that will block some of that blue light, so just go into settings, and I’m not a tech guy. My son did it for me.

Warren:

Yeah, I’m opening it up right now, so what are—night shift. Is it the night shift thing?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes. Night shift. Yep, that’s it.

Warren:

I had a little vlog going here, too, this will be up on the show. Look, we’re pretraining, so the night shift off, night shift on, so it turns the whole color—it turns a brown, a brownish, but that’s what I do.

Dr. Pompa:

Here’s the other thing you can do, too, is you can go and replace a lot of your bulbs in your home if you go to these websites and just buy the old incandescent light bulbs.

Warren:

I bought a whole bunch of extra ones. That was before they pulled them off the market.

Dr. Pompa:

I know, right? I was smart. I didn’t do that. You’re always ahead of me on that stuff.

Warren:

I’m a borderline prepper, but I’m not. I’m always thinking ahead. The indoor light. Okay, so here we are. What about these blue-blocking sunglasses? I’m getting crushed right now with two huge monitors, just loving me right now with their LED backlit technology, nice and crisp and yummy. Do I throw on some blue-blocking—do I get into that gadget world of some of our good biohacker friends like Mercola and Ben and others? There’s so many of them today. Is that a solution? Do we—

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, no, absolutely, it’s a solution. You can wear the blue-blocking glasses. Now, again, I think if you’re spending all day inside, those glasses are really good, if you have no choice. I have to be inside. You can have those lenses put in anything. They can be put over your lenses. You can buy prescriptions with these blue-blocking lenses now, so it’s getting more out there, so if you just Google blue-blockers, blue-block light protection, you’ll see a host of choices there now, which before it was one company. Then, there’s also the screen protectors, so you can put it on your screens, on your computers. There’s different blocks that you can put on, and mine comes on at night. As soon as night comes, it starts to block the blue light out of my screen, so on your computer. There you go. It’s pretty easy.

Warren:

Great show. More than just sunshine. See you later. See you next week, guys. Be a health hunter.