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Episode 34: Grounding and EMFs

Warren:

Welcome, health hunters, here today on this beautiful Saturday morning. I’m standing on a mat, Dr. Pompa. Did you know that?

Dr. Pompa:

Grounding mat?

Warren:

How did you know I was standing on a grounding mat?

Dr. Pompa:

They’re becoming more popular for a reason. People are realizing the effects of electronic world we live is having on their bodies.

Warren:

That’d be a reason. I didn’t think you’d know what kind of mat I was standing on. I thought like a foam mat, or a plastic mat, or a sleeping mat. No. It is a grounding mat, and as I’m doing this show, I’m not feeling much EMF at all. That is our topic today, electromagnetic frequencies. How they are silently disrupting us at the cellular level, and it’s one of those causational things.

I know, Dr. Pompa, you work with a lot of really, really challenged individuals around the world and professionals, and this is a big deal. The science is getting out of control on this, and it’s hitting the Facebook, social media. There’s a fear surrounding this, and then there’s a lot of conspiracy surrounding this. As health hunters, we dug in, and you in particular, Dr. Pompa, have become quite the expert on EMF as of late as you’ve discovered quite a few problematic and scientific reasons and literally measuring these things in the home and neutralizing them. Really helping both yourself as you always continue to find the latest and the greatest if there is in health, as we do as health hunters, but also, by helping a lot of other, our clients, that are really, really sensitive to EMF and what it does at the cellular level. I know there’s a lot of scientists you talk to as well.

Let’s dig into this today on Health Hunters. This is an amazing deep topic, and we want to clear the air for you guys today on Health Hunters Radio and TV. Dr. Pompa, I’m going to launch you out into this. You are a madman when it comes to EMFs. You got a meter. You have a tin hat, just kidding.

Dr. Pompa:

It would actually help.

Warren:

Would it really?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. It’s true.

Warren:
Oh, no, the tin hat. The tin hat or the aluminum foil hat, or it has to be tin?

Dr. Pompa:
Right. Yeah. No. It could be aluminum foil. This topic, it really has interested me in the last year or so. I think we’ve heard more and more about it, and you’re right; I deal with a lot very, very sensitive people and clients that can’t even stand in front of their refrigerator often times, let alone hold a cellphone or sit in front of a computer. We know these people are canaries in a coal mine, meaning that they’re overly sensitive, right, if you will, but it also brings up a truth. These things are putting out some type of stressor on our cells that our body’s not responding to in a proper way, right? It’s not adapting.

We know it’s a stressor that a healthy person can most likely adapt to or not over time, which is, by the way, one of the questions I have. Just like microwaves, it took years before microwaves were outlawed, ironically, in the very countries they were invented in. We’re still using them. People still use microwave ovens in this country, which there’s major issues with from multiple aspects, but we’re not talking about those microwaves necessarily. We’re talking about microwaves from radio frequencies. These baby monitors, I mean, there’s no doubt these things put off such high frequency that they should be outlawed, and I believe will. These phones, right, we all had them in our homes. We had the base phone, and then you had your—the phones that you could just leave around your house, as long as the batteries were okay, right? Then they communicated through radio frequency to the base. I mean, massive amounts of radio frequencies.

Warren:

Oh, geez. I got most talkative in high school, Dr. Pompa. I lived on those things.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, right.

Warren:

Yeah, bad.

Dr. Pompa:

I mean, those things are really high on these radio frequencies, were actually the most damaging, and then there’s another type of frequency like these magnetic frequencies. I had my fish tank, and I would clear this fish tank out. I’m not overly sensitive to these things, right? I think I’m normal sensitive. Most people don’t realize that they felt weird, or not good, or got a headache, or whatever response. They just don’t put it together that they were in front of these frequencies because you don’t see them, right? Anyway, so I’m doing my fish tank. You change these filters out, and it was like every time—my wife would be like every time you do this it’s like we should just leave the house. You get so irritable, right? It took me a while to realize—it took me a Gauss meter. See, there’s different meters that measure different frequencies better. In the case of magnetic frequencies, a Gauss meter, $50 meter you can buy online is the best way to measure these type of frequencies.

Warren:

Probably on Amazon.  We’ll put that in the show notes.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, probably Amazon.

Warren:

To the people transcribing this, we’ll throw the Gauss down in there.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, Less EMF.

Warren:

I got the one for—mine’s better than yours, though. I got a better one than Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. I’m sure. Hey, you don’t need the expensive. LessEMF.com sells several of them.

Warren:

Oh, nice.

Dr. Pompa:

They also sell the meter that I have to measure the radio frequency.

Warren:

That’s the fancy meter that you have.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. That’s the one with the little yellow ball on it that’s about 500.

Warren:

I didn’t get that.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Less EMF sells it, but it’s $500. However, you can get in on Joyfay, J-O-Y, we’ll put it in the notes, F-A-Y.com for 350. Anyway, that one does the radio frequencies, which are really the most damaging. Anyways, I get the Gauss meter, so I decide to measure it under there. Of course, I’m getting symptoms, my wife says. Honestly, after I did it and she said something, I realized, yeah, I do feel really anxious while I’m doing this, and here I thought it was just because you’re dealing with water. You’re dealing with mold. You’re dealing with things, right? It’s stressful.

Warren:

You’re dealing with cleaning a fish tank. That was stressful for me too.

Dr. Pompa:

That’s right. It’s stressful, man. It’s stressful. Anyways, this is…

Warren:

I hate cleaning fish tank.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. They say fish make you calm. Not cleaning them, okay, and cleaning the filters. Anyways, bottom line is this, a massive amount on this Gauss meter. It’s arguable, but anything under 2 and maybe 2.5 as you measure these is considered okay, safe. This thing pushes over 200, these filters, and I have 2 of them. Imagine, I mean, this thing is enough—I mean, when you look in the literature, I mean, massively causing cellular damage being in front of these things, especially for 30 minutes or more.

Okay. I measure this. I’m like what? It put me on a quest to make it safe. I ordered this nickel shielding, and I put it in front. I’m like it’s hardly doing anything. Only to learn you have to completely surround or these darn frequencies will find their way out. You have to encapsulate it on every angle and every end to really make it safe, so it’s not easy. Those magnetic frequencies are harder than the radio frequencies. Radio frequencies, if you go to LessEMF.com, you’ll see a zillion ways, even throwing these copper, or steel, or different blankets over things like your computers underneath your desk, or I should say your monitor.

That brings me to one more personal experience with my son, Dylan, who all of a sudden is getting severe testicular pain daily, and I am thinking this kid sits in front of a computer all day working on different programs, etc. When I was out last time where he lives, I brought my meter, and I measured under what was coming under his desk where his testicles would be all day long. Sure enough, massive levels of EMF coming off of these monitors, I mean, ridiculous amounts. I’m going to be honest. It was hard for me to convince him, right? Kids, they don’t get it. This is their life. They’ve been in front of these things their whole life.

Warren:

He just like, dad, my testes hurt. How is that related to—I wouldn’t believe it either.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Yeah. When you look at the studies on these frequencies and what it does to our organs, our bodies, and our cells, including our testicles, you better stay tuned for the next episode here.

Warren:

Be right back.

[Break 00:09:43 – 00:09:48]

Warren:

We are back and discussing the topic today on Health Hunters Radio, which is electromagnetic frequencies. You mentioned radio frequency. Is that magnetic frequency? We hear a lot about EMF. What’s the radio frequency? Is it still considered that, Dr. Pompa, or what’s the—it’s one of the questions I had as you were going through that on the first segment.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I mean, they’re all—in the category of EMF, electromagnetic frequencies.

Warren:

It’s all the same.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. There’s different wavelengths, right? Think of the radio frequencies as a tower connecting to your cellphone. The baby monitor connecting to the base. Your mouse on the computer connecting to your—so that was one of the things that I discovered in my workspace, making my sleeping space very safe, the places you spend the most time, my office. My phone, it wasn’t a phone connecting to another base, but it had the ability to connect to another base.

Guess what? I measure it with this other device, the $350 device. It’s called, by the way, Tes, T-E-S, 593. I measure it, and that phone was giving off dangerous levels of—you want to be under—on this, you want to be under .3. I was probably around, I don’t know, four, five, six, seven surges. These things surge. Matter of fact, the more [surgey] it is, up and down, up and down, the more dangerous it is. I was realizing it was the dang phone, so I had to go to Best Buy. I picked up a $60 phone that was way more basic, and it solved that problem.

Then I realized, okay, now I’m down to maybe one or two, so I still am not under .3. Then my mouse, my stupid mouse was not—it was, what do you call it, the remote. It was a remote mouse, right? I had to get a plug-in mouse.

Warren:

A laser mouse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got a plug-in mouse.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Then, anyways, I did a thing on my computer. I have the new Mac, which has a little square base port. It’s square and maybe an inch high. That really is really low EMF, surprisingly. I don’t have the big box that sits under the desk. Those put out way more EMF.

Warren:

They have bigger fans too, I bet.

Dr. Pompa:

Yes, exactly. The fans are typically magnetic. That’s typically more of a magnetic frequency. Anyways, yeah, so my computer itself was very safe once I got rid of those things. Yeah. Then there’s an electrical current. There I heard a weird sound.

Warren:

That was me. I bumped the…

Dr. Pompa:

Oh, okay.

Warren:

Mike.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Anyways, that’s where the grounding mats come in. As your fingers are on a keyboard, you can get basically an electrical current that can add a harmful frequency radiation into your cells, so that’s why you mentioned the grounding mat. I mean, all these things—look, for me to solve my situation with the fish tank, it’s probably the most expensive that I—solution yet, and it’s going to cost me—I figured it out. I’m looking at my totals after I measured these things. It’s going to cost me about $125 to fix it. Well worth it, obviously. Some of these fixes are $20, $30. Buy a new phone. I mean, it’s not terribly expensive. I think you invest in the equipment to measure it.

Unless you can measure something, then you don’t even know if your solution’s working. Just like I put the nickel shielding, I would’ve thought, okay, that did it, right? My gosh, it was right in front of there. It must be pushing that in another direction. It wasn’t. It was going right around it. I mean, you have to be able to see if these solutions work, so invest in the equipment to measure. I think it’s worth it. I’ve got a $50 Gauss meter, a $350 radio frequency meter. There’s probably less expensive radio frequency meters. This one is no doubt the best one out there.

Warren:

You’re buddy, Joe, loves that one, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Yeah. Joe Mercola got that one after I looked into it because I was trying to find a cheaper one. I decided just to get that one myself, actually. Anyways, these solutions really aren’t that expensive to do, but you need the meters to figure out where. There’s one more that’s called dirty electricity. There’s a book written about dirty electricity. The outlets, if you put these things, the Gauss meter or the frequency near your outlets, you’ll be like, oh, that’s nothing. There’s a surge that comes through these things that is called dirty electricity.

There’s something called a Greenwave. You can get them about $25. I know Walmart actually has them now. I found them on Amazon at one place for $25. Typically, you need maybe—I don’t know. I mean, I think I ordered nine of them but cleaned up my office, cleaned up my bedroom. You plug these things in your outlet. Then you can plug into those, and it takes out your dirty electricity.

Okay. I gave a lot of solutions, but I promise you this one. We don’t have people convinced to do it. I promise you that. It’s unseen, right? I mean, if these—if we could see these things coming out of our outlets, everyone would be running to Walmart to buy these things. People would be investing in everything I said, but we don’t see it. By the way, most of you think you don’t feel it. Just because you don’t feel it or think you don’t feel it, that doesn’t mean it’s not affecting your health.

I get it. I was one of those people until I dove a little bit more into the literature. Look, it’s strong. It is strong. The literature is strong of what it’s doing. The problem is we’re in one of the largest human experiments, right? GMOs is another. Vaccines is another. We have a lot of human experiments. This is definitely in that top three going on right now.

This generation, my children, your children, many people listening, there’s children, here is the experimental group. We have just been exposed to these things, right? I mean, this generation is living in it. How is the body adapting? Okay. I was researching brain tumors, and I got a lot of conflicting information as a health hunter. I was saying, okay, if these phones are so bad, then we should see this massive rise in brain tumors; well, malignant ones, yes; regular tumors, no. I mean, I still—there could be other factors for the massive rise in malignant. Again, I think it’s so early, so I talked to a gentleman named Martin Paul who you know. He spoke at one of our past seminars.

Warren:

Yeah. I was just going to—I wondered if you were going to bring him up because this guy’s off the charts brilliant

Dr. Pompa:

He’s such an amazing guy, brilliant. When I spoke to him, I mean, I had trouble getting off the phone as I was arriving to my destination. This concern over this generation, he believes that the bottom’s going to fall out. He says, Dr. Pompa, you have to understand how these types of tumors work, how these cancer cells work. It’s an exposure over periods of time. It just happens, right? He says we’re about to see an explosion in this type of—these types of cancers and what’s going on.

Look, I know this for my own sake. Everybody’s sick. My wife and I were just eating somewhere. We meet everybody that’s around us typically, and it’s always a health story about what’s going on. It’s become the new normal, being sick, thyroid conditions, toxins, yes. How much of this EMF is playing a role? Let’s talk more about it because I believe it’s bigger than we think.

Warren:

Absolutely, Dr. Pompa, and I have a little something I want to read that’s really scary. We’ll be right back.

[Break 00:18:14 – 00:18:16]

Warren:

Dr. Pompa, I’m sure concerned about EMF. It’s like our last topic last week, GMOs. You don’t’ really see the glyphosate on the—in the soy, in the corn, but it’s a massive human experiment. I would liken EMF to that as they’re putting in smart meters in your homes and things that are putting off massive EMF. Cancer rates, with all of our technological advances, I’m just trying to put this into perspective, are still going through the roof. People are getting sicker and sicker. Yet, we’re supposedly the most, I mean, technologically advanced country in the world, and we’re one of the sickest countries in the world. We have the best healthcare system. Yet, we’re one of the sickest countries in the world. A lot of this is just we’re—this is just we’re carnage as we grow and move.

What I wanted to read and really shock the audience with is go on your iPhone because many of you do. You go into your General, and then you go to your About, right, General, About; underneath your Settings, General, About. Dr. Pompa, you’re following me on this right?

Dr. Pompa:

Mm-hmm.

Warren:

That’s an inside joke because we always have to do technology together. Then you go to Legal, and then there it is. RF Exposure right at the bottom. It’s pretty much saying, oh, we tested this phone, and it meets radio frequency exposure limits, right? “Although this device has been tested to determine SAR in each band of operation, not all bands are available in the areas. Bands are dependent on your service provider wireless and roaming network.” Let me see if it’s in here on this one. Oh, it’s telling you to move it away from your head, used to decrease your limits, all this.

You sign off on this when you subscribe in this. When you update the phone, it makes you accept their legal disclosure. It says, “We’re not responsible for the brain cancer this may cause.” They know that this thing is going to cause this, but they’re already clearing themselves. You’re like, look, we told you. We even did the legal notice. We put the RF exposure. I mean, right on your phone it has RF exposure.

It’s letting you know, hey, we’ve done everything we can to say this. We told you to use speaker phone. Go get cancer and die now. Thank you very much. If they’re doing it and making us sign off legally, I hope that brings some credibility to the silent dangers of EMF.

Dr. Pompa:

You brought up another simple solution, right? I mean, with this, the meter, the $350 meter, you can put it next to your phone. You’re like that’s not too bad. Then have your friend text you, and you go vroom. You watch it just go brrrrr right up the scale. That’s going right into your—the moment your phone is, basically, attaching to that tower or trying to, through the roof. The less bars you have, the more it’s trying, the higher exposure. You have to understand how that’s working. Warren, we run around on speaker phone because distance is your friend. A foot away from you is far less than right up on your ear. Distance in your friend.

Another story about that, when we moved into this house, I had my desk that I’m sitting at right now currently over on that wall. You can see me right now, right, folks, pointing to the wall about 12 feet across the room. Anyways, it was. I was sitting on that wall, and I was getting headaches. I don’t get headaches, right? There were these dull headaches. I never started the day. It was towards the end of the day headaches.

Of course you’d think it’s a lot of different things, right? After a couple weeks of this, I don’t know what—I can’t remember what made me click. I know. I was outside, and I saw on that wall—I was walking around. I said, oh, that’s where my electric comes in. Bam! It hit. Son of a gun, I need to measure that. That’s how I ended up buying my darn Gauss meter.

I measured it, and it was 70. Okay. It was surging, right, sometimes 30, sometimes 50, 70. Matter of fact, it depended on if my washer and dryer was on, which was pulling more electricity. I realized, okay, this is the problem. I didn’t know how to shield it, nor did I care to even do that expense. I just moved my desk onto the other side of the room, solved my problem. I’m below .1, right, so 70 to .1 with a 10 foot difference, maybe 12. I mean, that’s what distance does. That cost me nothing so, again, another reason to have a meter.

By the way, always look—these smart meters, these things are putting off massive, I mean, massive, massive radio frequency exposure. I mean, people get sick. Plants die around these things. I mean, that’s how bad they are. Where is your bed? Where is your head sleeping? Measure it. That’s the point. Where are you sitting all day? Measure it. That’s the point.

Listen, you add this—listen, the cells do not know the difference of physical, chemical, emotional stress, and I’ll add one more, EMF stress, doesn’t know the difference. You might as well be eating toxins. It’s creating a cellular stress that your body has to adapt to. When will your cells run out of adaptation ability? Add another layer of emotional stress. I call it your—imagine we all have a bucket. Genetically, different size buckets all of us, right? Call it your stress bucket. You fill it with emotional stress. You fill it with toxic stress from the time you’re a baby. You fill it with all this, and now we’re filling it with electromagnetic stress, right?

When and where is yours overflowing? If you’re on a medication, yours is overflowing. If you’re trying all these different supplements and you’re still not feeling right, if you’re not sleeping, if you have anxiety, if your hormones are dysregulate, your stress bucket is overflowing. Understand that the only way to feel better is empty the stinking bucket. Emptying EMFs, these stressors, it’s so easy, but yet, we’re not thinking of it as a danger of filling our buckets. The more you empty that bucket, the more stressors you’ll be able to take on. Now, all of a sudden, your crazy mother-in-law is not freaking you out. You’re not ruining your day because you’re going, yeah, yeah. You’re reacting to it. You’re dealing with it better. You’re normal.

The chemical stress that normally would send you surging, now you’re reacting in a better way to it. You have to empty your stress buckets. That’s really how you get well. You have to go upstream and eliminate the causes of cellular dysfunction, and no doubt, you will express different health. Instead, we look for the magic pill, powder, potion, lotion, whatever it is. What I’m telling you is, if you truly want to walk in a state of health, defy the odds, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, whatever it is, look upstream. Remove these causes.

I hope I’m impacting you to look at these electromagnetic frequencies, and get them the heck out of your life. Invest in two stinking meters, and watch what happens to your life. I’m telling you, you will sleep better, first off. You’ll recover better. You’ll feel better, but you have to be willing to do this in your life. It’s not everything, but it’s part of the stress bucket. I hope that makes sense to you all.

Warren:

Makes sense to me. I’m more fired up. I think you said it, Dan. To get the meters, invest in that, and then check your dirty electricity. Those are cheap. You can get those from Walmart you said to fix those, a little adapter. Then after you but the adapter to fix the dirty electricity, you get the right—it uses up the whole wall plug. Then you put in a little EMF type—which aren’t expensive. What are those?

Dr. Pompa:

The Greenwaves?

Warren:

Dirty electricity, it takes up all your plug, so then you have to put a—what are those called, the sticks?

Dr. Pompa:

You mean the things you plug other things into, like multi-plugs?

Warren:

Yeah, the multi-plug thing. I can’t believe that’s escaping us right now.

Dr. Pompa:

That’s funny.

Warren:

Plug bars. I don’t know.

Dr. Pompa:

I don’t know either.

Warren:

We’ll think of it here in a minute. You start in your bedroom where you spend seven to nine hours in there. Then, obviously, your children are super affected by this stuff, so check their rooms, a few little clean ups. You might have to put in some—dirty electricity, you might want to—I mean, there’s lots of things you can do. You’re kid’s getting exposed to their iPad. You can get little anti-EMF blankets. Our children use those.

Like this morning, true story, my daughter was watching something on her iPad. I wasn’t feeling well. Rebecca’s not feeling well. We don’t let our kids watch a lot of TV or their iPads, but we put them on our iPad. I’m like, “Honey, you can’t do that.” We couldn’t find her EMF shield blanket.

You know what she did? She found her own solution. She put it about six feet away, propped it up in a box. “How’s this, daddy?” Six-year-old, we’re training them in the way so that they can be the next generation, so we’ll be right back with a quick…

Dr. Pompa:

Wait ‘til this last segment. We got something scary as well.

Warren:

There we go.

[Break 00:27:49 – 00:27:52]

Warren:

I’m not going to lie, Dr. Pompa. I’m going to tell you the truth. The truth is I was dancing like a tribal guy because of that music, and I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing. You can let us know down in the show notes if you ever do a tribal dance to our little intros and extras here. I sure did. Before we go to the next scary topic, I just want to say there’s a lot of questions we’re going to get. Can we put something on the back of our phone that eliminates that? I know that Dr. Pompa has looked into it extensively.

There’s little buttons, and it’s supposed to change the frequency up so that it’s healthy or make it harmonic. Anytime I ask someone is there science behind it, they say I muscle tested them, and I can show you that they’re stronger when they put this on. It’s all kinesiology, which really has some value for sure, but there’s a lot of inconsistency there. It’s not a consistent way to—it’s not a scientific method, if you will, right, and depending on who’s doing it. There’s so many things that can affect that, right? It’s multivariate.

I mean, I’m not going to put my faith in that, so I use what’s called a DefenderShield, which has a true EMF blocker on the front of the phone. It’s not perfect. Then there’s another one out there, another version that pushes a lot of it out the back of the phone. When you’re on it—I just bought the one—I think Ben Greenfield uses it. Joe just sticks his phone in a Faraday cage bag, and only uses it on speaker on a stick.

Dr. Pompa:

It’s true.

Warren:

If you were talking to Joe, if you ever get a chance to talk to him and Dan talks to him all the time and I talk to him every once in a while, he’s usually grounding and walking and has his little selfie stick where he’s yelling at his phone, talking to us. It’s really, really cool. The thing is is that’s another thing. These little buttons, do they or do they not work? I’m not going to say that they don’t, but I can’t tell you if they do work. I know that if you buy DefenderShield and some of the other ones that actually have the EMF blocker, you put that on.

Let me give you the negatives with that. Try to get ones that are made of natural materials. I’ve been off-gassing mine outside in the hot, hot mountain sun that is way impactful to off-gas these things. The thing still smells like it came straight from a Chinese factory where it was likely built, so it’s really, really toxic. I can’t even use the thing. I’m using it, and it makes me sick. I don’t want to give you a toxic solution. Make sure you get one, and if you do get it, make sure you off-gas it in the sun. Don’t leave it in the rain but off-gas in the sun. Let’s move on, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I want to move on to light, but let me say one thing on that. This is why you need a device to test.

Warren:

You need a meter.

Dr. Pompa:

Let’s say you put it in a case, and it has the anti-EMF on the front and the back. Now you know it’s shooting out the other side like I was explaining. You have to be able to measure these things before we say that things work. Because of my device to measure, I went with one that just blocks it on the back where my hand is. I realized that’s the problem, right? People are getting this arthritic pain, hand pain.

Warren:

Mine’s horrible, Dan, horrible.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. It makes it worse. When I measure that, then I realized, oh, my gosh, that’s really the bigger issue. I would rather it come out the top because I’m on speaker phone than into my hand. Now I’ve taken it off. I just have the block back—the back blocked.

Warren:

What’s the name of the one you’re using?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. It’s called BlocSock, B-L-O-C-S-O-C-K, Lite, L-I-T-E, BlocSock Lite. There’s different ones. You can block it in different ways with this. You can cut it. Now, I’m going to be honest here. My son, who I was speaking earlier, has my device because he’s fixing his thing. I had these on the way. Then I gave it to him. Stay tuned. I’ll tell you how it’s working.

I mean, it does block. It gives you the amount that it blocks. I’m trying to block my hand, so I’m sure it’s working to some degree. I’m still getting EMF if I put this thing close to me, but at least I’m blocking it in my hand.

Warren:

I get massive joint pain when I talk on the phone, massive.

Dr. Pompa:

Anyways, this is a different way of doing it, but anyways, the bottom line is you have to be able to measure. All right, what about light, right? I’m going to tell you right up front. I still, in the investigative stage here of—no doubt. I mean, there’s Harvard studies and others showing that our exposure to basically non-full-spectrum light like the sun gives off is a problem, so when you’re exposing yourself to these spectrums of light that are more blue light, for an example, you will deplete melatonin and not go into deep sleep. People looking at your phones before bed, screens, those are real high in blue light, or you’re in your bathroom. Now they have all these—all the halogen lights and fluorescents. These are frequencies that do the same. They’re very high in blue light, and you’re depleting your melatonin. Then you go to bed, and you’re not getting your deep restive delta sleep that you get mostly right when you fall asleep. You skip over that phase, and you’re wondering why you slept eight, nine hours; you’re still tired.

We know, no doubt, the science shows that that’s a factor. What about through the day, being under these lights all day? I believe that they’re no doubt affecting us. One of the counter steps is get outside. Walk around in your bare feet, called grounding. We talked a little bit about it, getting under the sunlight, exposing your skin to sun. Don’t get sunburned. We’re lacking real sun, full-spectrum light, that we’re learning every year has so much to do with aspects of our health that we had no idea. It’s not just about Vitamin D, getting sun, so we’ve been running from the sun, putting yourself under these false lights. Now we’re realizing that we’re creating great harm at the cellular level that we never thought, and the science is expanding.

I’m in an investigative stage. I’m a health hunter in this area right now, and I’m not certain of how dangerous it is. I know it affects sleep. I know it affects us. There’s a guy that I interviewed on Cell TV named Jack Kruse with a K. You can google him and find all kinds of things, but I did a great interview with him. He believes that this light issue is more important than food. Now, I don’t agree with Jack on that. I think he’s a brilliant man. I’m not saying anything negative. I think Jack’s done an amazing job exposing this new problem.

I don’t know. Is it more important than food or not? Okay. I’m going to side on the food of, mm, I don’t think. However, it is important. I have gone and went back to these incandescent lights. This was the old days, right? When you have a device—these devices are more expensive. I’m not recommending you buy one of these, but if you have one—Joe Mercola does, but you can look in the wavelength spectrum of an incandescent bulb versus a halogen.

The difference is stark. You can see these blue light imbalances. You go, okay, no doubt there’s a difference. Incandescent, the old bulbs are so—they don’t last as long, but they are so much more balanced, very close to more like sunlight. These things are hard to find, so you can order them online. We’ll put this in the show notes, Lighting Science. Lighting Science? Hold on. My internet’s off. I’m going to have to…

Warren:

Pull it up.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. We’re going to have to pull that up. I don’t want to screw it up. I’m a dyslexic.

Warren:

I’ll do it. I have my phone plugged in.

Dr. Pompa:

All right, thank you. Yeah, thank you.

Warren:

I’m getting EMF exposure on this.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, Lighting Science, Lighting Science, anyways.

Warren:

I’ll find it.

Dr. Pompa:

Warren will find that. The bottom line is is that we can buy these bulbs. Now, these go beyond even incandescent. These lights that you buy maybe for 20 bucks a bulb, $24 a bulb, you want to use these in your bedroom, maybe your—any place you do before bed. They even have day bulbs that help your cells. They give off more of a certain spectrum, but the point is this. I think I replaced six bulbs. I went to Walmart, actually, and found an old—an incandescent bulb. Home Depot doesn’t sell them anymore. They’re more of the real—the LEDs. The softer lights are better if you’re buying bulbs.

The bottom line, though, is that this imbalance of these frequencies no doubt—if you go to Cell TV, D-R-pompa.com and watch my interview with Jack Kruse, the word light is in the topic, in the subject, or whatever, the title. You’ll see a whole argument of what scientifically this is doing to us. All right, add this to EMF. Add to the toxins that we’ve talked about in this show so much. You see what we’re dealing with today, right? You wonder why the explosion of unexplainable illnesses, people medicating down, depression. I mean, all of this falls into what we’re talking about. Chronic pain disorders because it’s driving inflammation. This is no doubt there’s a change in our environment.

When we look at our outside environment, our air, it’s cleaner than ever, but it’s these hidden toxic exposures that we’re exposing as health hunters that no doubt are affecting you unknowingly. Warren, what was it? Was I right?

Warren:

It was Lighting Science, yeah, just Lighting Science, and it’s LSGC.com. They sell these things on Home Depot, Amazon. Man, there’s some other—they’re catching on. We’ll see you next week.

Dr. Pompa:

Good to hear, actually.

Warren:

Take care, guys. Have a great evening, morning.