Episode 36: How to Raise Healthy Kids – Part 1
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Episode 36 – How to Raise Healthy Kids – Part 1
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, welcome to a great show. You’ll notice that I am not Warren Phillips starting this show. He’s not with us today, but it is Dr. Dan Pompa. I’m here with your favorite guest according to feedback. It’s my wife, Merily Pompa. Today’s topic, you’re going to love: how to raise healthy kids. I brought the expert on. Listen, in this show we’re going to talk about from the birthing process—well, how about from pregnancy to the birth. What you feed them. Vaccinations, that’s a topic we’ve talked a little bit about in the past. We’re going to hear from an actual mom who had to make that decision. Even a home birth, had to make that decision. What about bringing down fevers? When to do that or when not? Is it bad always, maybe sometimes? Let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about some hand sanitizers. Anti-bacterial, I know that’s a pet peeve of hers, so I brought that up.
Merily Pompa:
Goldfish.
Dr. Pompa:
Like I say, even diet and how to raise all the kids. Every topic, we want to hit it all the way through. Our kids, we have 21-year-olds, 20-year-olds, 19-year-olds, and 14-year-olds.
Merily Pompa:
Eighteen, Isaac’s turning 18.
Dr. Pompa:
Eighteen; see, she just always has to correct me. She’s so into the details.
Merily Pompa:
I am.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s ridiculous. Something like that, I wouldn’t even think. It’s really not important. Anyway, so the point is we have a tribe. That makes her an expert. Look, I think raising kids in today’s world is really hard. I have to say this. Our 20-year-old reminds us all the time that all his friends are on different medications. “Dad, they’re all sick.” That’s what he tells us, right?
Merily Pompa:
Yep.
Dr. Pompa:
They’re all sick. He really says there’s so few that are healthy. I believe it starts from the womb. We’re going to talk about that. Alright, Merily, welcome to the show.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, hi; good morning. I was just thinking if I just had to tell people two things to avoid to change health it would be keep your kids off of goldfish, and no hand sanitizers, and you’d be making some major strides.
Dr. Pompa:
She’s only saying that because every church, every daycare, here come the stupid goldfish and hand sanitizers.
Merily Pompa:
Here comes the Nazi mom that doesn’t let her kids use either one.
Dr. Pompa:
Look, why the hand sanitizers, I wouldn’t even imagine that we would start here, but here we are. The hand sanitizers because right now we’re—
Merily Pompa:
We can back up.
Dr. Pompa:
—avoiding all the toxins. I’m sorry, all the bacteria. In that avoidance with the hand sanitizers, we’re literally creating more illness. We’re creating a child that doesn’t have a good microbiome on their hands anymore, which reflects into their bodies.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, your kids are going to fight germs by—
Dr. Pompa:
Hand sanitizers are toxic as well.
Merily Pompa:
—germs by having germs. That’s what people don’t realize. Anyway, let’s back up.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, let’s move back. Okay, Merily, let’s talk about [00:04:25] because you and I, we came from a chiropractic world, chiropractic philosophy. Meaning, hey, health comes from within; remove the interference, the body does the healing. I believed that even before I was a chiropractor. I was just raised under that without even knowing it. That was our philosophy. Then all of a sudden, now you’re pregnant. Like most women listening, you had fears. What were those fears?
Merily Pompa:
I think it’s normal. Of course, it’s normal to be afraid of what you don’t understand. I had never been through childbirth. Of course, I wanted to put myself in the best place possible—or the safest place possible for the best outcome. It was during my pregnancy that of course, it was something you always gave me—you gave me the right to make the decisions in terms of what I felt was best, knowing that I was the one that was going to have the baby. Of course, I opted for the birthing center. You asked me though to just do some research. You said, “Do me a favor and do some research. If you still feel that way, then by all means, you have my blessing and we’ll go to the birthing center.” I did that. A little caveat to that story is that his partner had four children. I can’t remember now if it was three or the last two that were born with the midwife that I would have used if I were to use a midwife.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I wanted to birth the babies actually; shoot.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, that happened after the first one.
Dr. Pompa:
You got a little bit more confident.
Merily Pompa:
He was a superhero by feeding me, but that was about it. I’m kidding. He was very attentive. It was just that honestly, there was a few things that I noticed, but I’ll talk about that later. Remind me about just where you go when you’re in a safe environment and you’re in your nest. The body kicks in and does what it is created to do. Obviously, barring you’re having a normal pregnancy. That’s always something that is very important. You need prenatal care. You need to make sure that everything is doing what it should be doing the right way so that they are no reasons to be concerned. If that’s the case, then there are definitely things that your body can relax within that process to accomplish. Anyway, Bill, your first partner, his brother had at this point maybe seven kids or six at the time when we meet them.
Dr. Pompa:
[Isabel O’Brien], yeah.
Merily Pompa:
Right, and five of them at this point I believe were actually born at home.
Dr. Pompa:
I have no clue. How do you remember these things?
Merily Pompa:
Anyway, the point is that I already knew that there were successful home births around me. I also knew that a few of their experiences within hospitals were not good and that’s what led them to home births. By the way, the same midwife. When I did my research, I read a book that I really recommend everyone read because it’s the only book I read and it was enough. I walked away saying, “I’m staying home.” It’s by Suzanne Arms. It’s called Immaculate Deception. It’s an old book. I think it might be from the ’70s maybe. Anyway, it is so—it was so powerful and [00:07:54].
Dr. Pompa:
Good luck finding that one.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, actually, I recently looked and recommended it to someone and it is on Amazon. That book was so informative. It was the information I needed. It was the facts. Basically, what I walked away with is, “I am staying home.” That was it.
Dr. Pompa:
See, it didn’t come from me, folks.
Merily Pompa:
Right, it didn’t.
Dr. Pompa:
This is good.
Merily Pompa:
The encouragement to find my way did come from him. I knew enough to know that I was not interested in the interventions. What I learned about those interventions actually quite honestly frightened me. I knew that my body and my baby were going to have the best possible outcome, the chances for that best possible outcome being at home.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so I have to say this. You freaked your father out completely. I remember that. However, the amazing thing happened because of course, he wouldn’t hear it from me or you. Then he read an article. Talk about that.
Merily Pompa:
It was an article I think that might have been even after Daniel was born, right?
Dr. Pompa:
I don’t remember. I remember him being okay with it at one point, so I thought it was actually before.
Merily Pompa:
Oh, okay. I don’t remember exactly. I just remember the irony of it all is that pretty much everybody that knows my dad knows that his grandbabies were all born at homes. My dad, very conventional. My mom didn’t say a whole lot, but she respected my—she respected where we were coming from. Again, you are going to—and I think honestly in the scheme of things, I had parents that knew I was always headstrong. They knew that whatever Danny said went in terms of—because my husband made conscious decisions about his life.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I’m Danny. Just so you know.
Merily Pompa:
My husband made conscious decisions about how to live.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, you still never made the point. The fact is her father actually read the article and was all pro. He’s like, “This is the place where you have kids. It’s safer at home.” That was her point.
Merily Pompa:
That’s what I was saying. I don’t know if that happened before or after.
Dr. Pompa:
We’ll talk more about that safety and what can happen at hospitals, folks, births, and actually, it does. We’re going talk about that when we get back.
[Commercial]
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so while we were off air, my wife and I were slapping each other because we were fighting. No, I’m kidding. I always interrupt her. She probably gets really mad at me. She didn’t, but I’m sure she does.
Merily Pompa:
He’s like, “Give too many details; let me interrupt that.”
Dr. Pompa:
That’s exactly right. I want to get to the point.
Merily Pompa:
Hold on; by the way, just so you know, that’s his line: I give too many details. It depends on who’s listening. Some people might be listening and want the details, especially if they’re women. Women like details.
Dr. Pompa:
All the women are shaking their heads.
Merily Pompa:
This is who that show is for. It’s really for the women or the men that doubt.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, yeah, all the women are shaking their heads and the men are going get to the point.
Merily Pompa:
[00:15:14] men.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, the point was that her father did read this article. It was basically statistics that why home births were actually safer than the hospital. Look, you can argue we live in the most sophisticated country in the world. We have all this amazing healthcare. We do. Emergency, we have the best of the best. However, that’s one of the problems. We treat births as emergencies; and therefore, there’s a lot of unnecessary medications and procedures that we’re going to talk about here in this segment.
With that said, you have to understand, I think we’re 27th now of the infant mortality. Meaning that 26 other countries that your baby has a better chance of being born alive than here in the US, which is actually hard to believe. All the sophisticated hospitals, etc. and we rank 27th in infant mortality? That’s really a staggering number. Look, you don’t have to believe a word I say. I always say, “Do your own research. Don’t take what I say for granted.” I tell you, that statistic alone should shake you up. When we used to do this talk, I thought we were 23rd once. Then I just heard 27, so maybe I’m wrong. Even at 23, but when I heard 27, I was like holy cow. We’re still heading in the wrong direction. These are staggering numbers. Let’s talk about some of the things, Merily, that you actually read about and said, “Okay, I am not going to a hospital.” What swayed you on that decision?
Merily Pompa:
Actually, it began with the baby monitors. I began with just the fact that they hook you up to monitors to determine if what they think is progressing as normal. That the heart rates right. That just your body’s doing what it’s supposed to be doing.
Dr. Pompa:
Ultrasounds, you’re talking about ultrasounds?
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, first of all, I never did an ultrasound.
Dr. Pompa:
Doppler, what about a Doppler?
Merily Pompa:
I didn’t do a Doppler until I was in labor.
Dr. Pompa:
They use those things just to see how the baby is progressing, if the baby’s healthy or not, right?
Merily Pompa:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
That sounds reasonable to me. Wouldn’t you want to know? You’re a nervous mother.
Merily Pompa:
No, actually because who’s to say what’s normal. Every child is different. Every mother is different. It’s the same way we work—
Dr. Pompa:
I think you’re right. They freaked women out. It’s not growing as normal as I prepared for.
Merily Pompa:
Right, and if you’re in a place where you’re dealing with a teaching hospital, they actually get—they’re prone to get involved. They’re prone to—
Dr. Pompa:
They treat it like a disease.
Merily Pompa:
Right, they’re not waiting patiently for your baby to do what it needs to do or your body to get to the place it needs to get to give birth. Doctors have schedules. There’s just a lot of things that go one that are behind the scenes that are not in the best outcome.
Dr. Pompa:
What you mean by—you’re throwing a lot of things out there, so I’ve got to pull you back. First of all, you didn’t even say what is wrong with these ultrasounds and these Dopplers?
Merily Pompa:
They disrupt the formation of DNA at certain times during the pregnancy.
Dr. Pompa:
Meaning, that they’re actually safe at certain times and wouldn’t cause any problems, but certain DNA replication, and certain things forming at certain times, you can hit those ultrasounds on those particular times. There’s studies out there that show that it can, in fact, create problems at certain times.
Merily Pompa:
I guess the question that I would ask—
Dr. Pompa:
Crapshoot.
Merily Pompa:
—how do you know what time that is then?
Dr. Pompa:
No, you don’t; that’s right. Relax, that’s what I’m saying.
Merily Pompa:
I wouldn’t even say that.
Dr. Pompa:
With that said, you read enough in that book and others. Of course, I was reading other books.
Merily Pompa:
That was my go to, honestly.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and I was reading things. I said, “Yeah, no way.” To your other point, you throw something else out there: doctors have schedules. What do you mean by that?
Merily Pompa:
Obviously, a baby doesn’t necessarily come at noon or 10 AM. Maybe a woman is laboring—
Dr. Pompa:
The doctor may end up having to get up at 3 AM is what you’re saying. What would happen is he’s like man, I really don’t want to have to get up. I really want to—
Merily Pompa:
There’s ways of slowing down the labor. There’s ways of speeding up the labor. There’s ways of involving—there’s sometimes it’s a— by the way, with a midwife really has to work for sometimes—work hard. First of all, in my first pregnancy, my first delivery, as hard as she worked, I think I ended up with two stitches. The other babies I did not tear at all. There is work that a midwife needs to do to get the body prepared for that. What is that called? The perineum that expands around the vagina that lets the baby’s head out?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, the perineum.
Merily Pompa:
That needs to expand and that takes work. It’s not like you—a midwife isn’t just going to go and cut into you. I appreciated that for sure. It’s just a different—it’s coming from a different paradigm. There’s a different level of respect that is happening when you are at home and you are trusting your body to do the work. You’re trusting the trained midwife who understands that process to just be trained to look for the things that aren’t—that are the anomalies.
Dr. Pompa:
You have to understand that when you talked about the doctor’s time, there’s nothing more convenient than a C-section. See, because the doctor now can pick it. Okay, we’re going to deliver this baby on Tuesday at 1 o’clock. How convenient is that? That’s not going to disrupt your golf game; that’s for sure. As a matter of fact, line them all up on Tuesday. Do one at 1, one at 2, one at 3; come on that’s convenience. Oh, and by the way, guess what? Hospitals bank; bank! You know how much more money they make on C-sections? Holy cow, that’s a surgery; of course. The doctor cashes in; it’s more convenient; come on, folks. I just pulled up some statistics here. Around the world right now, the C-section rate is increasing; 19% is around the world right now. That’s the percentage of C-sections. Look, in the United States, one in three births right now happen in C-sections. Holy cow, one in three. That’s incredible.
Merily Pompa:
Do you think that’s needed?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, but no. That’s the reason why is what I’m saying.
Merily Pompa:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s no doubt about that. I thought this was interesting. Over the past few decades, it’s risen dramatically: 5% in 1970; in 1996, 20%. By contrast, 16% are births in Finland. Finland’s 16%, and 24% in the United Kingdom. We’re just killing it, man, in this country. Here’s the problem. Listen, I’m a chiropractor by trade. I can tell you right now—have you ever seen a C-section? Google that because they— ultimately, there’s a back suction. They have to grab the baby by its head. That is called the first sub trauma, the first subluxation that occurs. Not only do they have to grab by the head, the have to do twisting and moving. It’s hard to get that baby out. Sometimes they actually even need forceps, which is a whole other discussion.
Merily Pompa:
When the baby comes through the birth canal, not only is that natural curve that’s put in there innately is able to come through. Also—
Dr. Pompa:
We’ve got to roll off to the next thing, but she’ll finish that thought when we come back. More consequences and benefits of home birth when we come back.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, just looking at some of the statistics in the infant mortality rate in the United States stands about 6 deaths per 1,000 births. Double the rate of other countries like Japan, Finland, Portugal, Czech Republic; Anyways, it goes on. Here’s one, I didn’t know this. The maternal mom mortality rate in the United States has climbed in the past two decades: 14 deaths per 100,000. Holy cow.
Merily Pompa:
Wow.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and again, we’re arguably the most sophisticated country in the world with medicine. Come on, we’re at the bottom of the standard here as far as statistics, so I think you might want to listen. We’re going to definitely move off births here in a second, but before we do—
Merily Pompa:
Hold on; I was going to say that not only is that curve going to be established as it passes through the birth canal, the baby, but also, the microbiome that the baby is exposed to coming through that birth canal that if you have a C-section, the baby does not get. We’ve seen that time and again. By the way, that microbiome that’s being established in that child is preventing and keeping other pathogens, and toxins, and all kinds of things that we can’t even quantify or qualify.
Dr. Pompa:
When you look at that, you have to understand how important that is because you are gaining mom’s microbiome. That’s really what sets up your immunity for life. Later in life, in your 30’s, we know statistics show that if you didn’t get birthed through the birth canal, you have much higher chances of allergies, autoimmune, and other food allergies even. The microbiome starts by coming through that birth canal and then continues to develop as you nurse. Nursing, big deal. That wasn’t even a consideration for us whether we were going to nurse or not.
I have to say one thing backing up. A lot of the times when they say okay, the woman’s not contracting, midwives are training to be patient. Matter of fact, one of our children were posterior. That was Daniel.
Merily Pompa:
Two.
Dr. Pompa:
Two actually.
Merily Pompa:
Isaac was born that way and Daniel was head, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Was turned. Our midwife trained to turn the baby. Then the other one that was posterior too—by the way, both of those would of end in C-sections.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, both of those would have ended in C-sections or giving Pitocin, which is a drug that slows down contractions, waiting it out, which has a whole ‘nother list of consequences.
Merily:
I just remember lying on my left side for four hours before Daniel turned. Then he turned. By the way, when the baby was posterior—that’s why, Isaac, when she was telling me he’s ready, push, I had no sensation to push. It was because he was posterior, so I don’t know how it happened.
Dr. Pompa:
They would’ve given Pitocin because that creates the contractions but that creates other problems.
Merily:
Somehow or another I pushed, and Isaac came out. He was born much earlier, timewise, than Daniel, who I had to wait for four hours for him to actually flip. Then I had the sensation to push. Ellen was aware of what was happening with Daniel, and she was surprised by the fact that Isaac was also posterior.
Dr. Pompa:
Really statistically I know the what-if. What if something happens? What if something happens? In these situations when you look at the fact the midwife can always transition the baby immediately to the hospital, God forbid.
Merily:
Here’s what I’ve learned. I learned that you have an average time window of about 90 minutes. If you live relatively close to a hospital, you will be able to transport and everything will be fine, obviously. By the way, if there’s something that is so life-threatening, it doesn’t matter where you are. That’s the other thing that I learned. Actually I think those were the two things that really gave me the greatest sense of comfort, knowing that I’m not risking my baby or my own life by staying home. We did live within 20, 30 minutes from the hospital at the most.
Dr. Pompa:
Those are things to consider. I was thinking of something else, but anyway,the baby is born now. Now in a hospital, you’re going to be confronted with some things like vitamin K shots, antibiotics in the eyes. What did you learn about that?
Merily:
Oh, my gosh. First of all, there’s a reason why the blood doesn’t clot. God doesn’t make mistakes, and I don’t want that process interfered with. I didn’t want any process interfered with.
Dr. Pompa:
Back up, vitamin K, you have to explain why they’re giving it.
Merily:
It’s for the clotting factor. A baby does not clot for up to 48 hours after birth perhaps, on average. There’s a reason for that. Quite honestly, I’m not sure we even need to know all the reasons. I’m one of those people that I understand that God in His sovereignty, there’s just not everything that we’re going to understand. Maybe certain things aren’t going to—
Dr. Pompa:
I think I know the reason. First of all, the baby needs that thinner blood because it’s trying to get the blood into the outer tissues very quickly, into the brain. There are many reasons. You’re probably right, though; we don’t know all [32:59]
Merily:
Beyond the things that you can research, for me, I was comfortable with just respecting how it’s created.
Dr. Pompa:
They give the vitamin K because, God forbid, something happens to the baby, so they’re thickening the blood. To Merily’s point, they’re taking it and saying innate intelligence of the body. God doesn’t know what He’s doing, so we need to step in and thicken the blood. See, we’re building the argument for why the statistics are what they are. I think that’s a really bad idea. I can’t even believe they still do it. They don’t do it in other countries, but they do it here. Then antibiotics in the eyes? Erythromycin in the eyes? Why are they doing that? I guess that’s a good idea.
Merily:
The mom has gonorrhea, and by they way—
Dr. Pompa:
Why can’t they ask her?
Merily:
Instead of testing—a lot of things that become standard practice are easier and obviously more financially rewarding for that institution than to go through each woman’s perfect care plan and say, what does this particular woman need? That bothered me. Truly, if you have to go to a hospital or if you choose to go to a hospital, absolutely have a care plan. Absolutely have certain things set up in advance and make sure that your doctor and every doctor in the practice, if there are five of them, they all are aware and sign off on it. Hold them accountable to it, the nurses involved, everybody. Personally, I think that is—it is. I don’t think it is. It is an added stress to where your body wants to go when it is time to give birth. The last thing you should have to be consumed with and concerned with is your birth plan, honestly.
Dr. Pompa:
Hospitals can give you what you want. You want to sign off that you don’t want the K shot, if that’s what you choose. Do your homework. That’s what we’re telling you. You want to sign off on the erythromycin in the eyes. You never made the point about that, though. What’s some of the consequences of putting antibiotics in your eyes, erythromycin?
Merily:
Oh, my gosh, you would know those as a doctor. There’s many more than what we could even possibly know.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s a lot on it as far as what it can do just to the eyes potentially. The microbiome, we’ve learned so much more about how it disrupts the microbiome and how important the microbiome is in the eyes and to the eyes.
Merily:
One of the things, it just affected my heart when I thought, oh my gosh your baby is actually able to see you when it’s born. It can see his mom for that period of time, and the fact that obviously is distorted. Did you ever see what that looks like? It’s an ointment. It looks miserable to me when I look at pictures of babies with erythromycin in their eyes. That alone was, oh my gosh, why? No.
Dr. Pompa:
Test moms for the gonorrhea. I think that would be a more wise choice.
Merily:
One other thing—
Dr. Pompa:
I know what you’re going to say, the very thing I was thinking.
Merily:
Umbilical cord?
Dr. Pompa:
No, but that’s good though.
Merily:
The other thing that you want is that umbilical cord to completely stop pulsing before the cord is cut. Being that that happened in our house with all three babies that I delivered, my husband was able to cut the cord or—I don’t remember who cut the cord. Did you cut the cord?
Dr. Pompa:
No.
Merily:
In any event, in the hospital that isn’t necessarily respected. Again, it’s a time thing. Just the value for what birth means, represents, and how it is to be honored and respected in its entirety is just not something that you are going to be functioning in that paradigm in a hospital.
Dr. Pompa:
When we get back we’re going to move forward into what happens as we’re raising these children. This may be a two-part show. We’ve got so much information. You never answered where you go for your nesting place or whatever I’m supposed to remind you. All right, when we get back.
Dr. Pompa:
Y’all remember when she said, remind me to where you go when you’re in your nest? Don’t remind us.
Merily:
Maybe where I went in my head, yeah, okay.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m reminding her.
Merily:
All I was referring to is that when you do go into labor, if you can stay home, really, your body calms down. It doesn’t gear up. You’re at peace. You are content. You feel safe and secure. To just allow that process to play out, it’s just—I mean, I don’t think there’s anything that—
Dr. Pompa:
More natural.
Merily:
Right, there’s nothing more natural.
Dr. Pompa:
When you enter a hospital, I don’t care who you are, man, your anxiety goes through the roof, which slows down—no wonder they have to give you drugs.
Merily:
The heart rate goes up.
Dr. Pompa:
Hey look, by the way, there’s more home births in this world, still today, than actually hospital births. I mean, in the United States, of course, [42:38].
Merily:
They have better immortality rates too, by the way.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right, that’s the point I’m going to make, exactly. Anyways, yeah, that is actually really good. I still envisualize our next-door neighbor was a nurse, right. Of course, very medically minded. I might think it—yeah, we loved her, though. Anyways, she was freaked out, of course. Oh my God, you can’t have your baby at home. God forbid, do you know how many babies have died?
Merily:
Yeah, she was the one that scared me the most, probably, out of everybody. She was [43:07].
Dr. Pompa:
She literally saw Merily, whatever, I don’t know, maybe a half day before or not even. When are you going to have the baby, right? It looks like it’s going to happen anytime soon. Then there she was, hours later, holding a baby outside. She just had the baby. She’s like, what? Whose baby is that? No, we just had the baby. What? Anyways, it was just—again, she was coming from—
Merily:
She watched that happen two more times.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right, yeah, she was coming from the mindset of yeah, you’re in the hospital. Oh my gosh, she has the baby and hours later she’s standing outside holding the baby. Yeah, it was shocking to her. I know what I was thinking. It was the shots that the women can get because their blood type.
Merily:
The Rhogam shot.
Dr. Pompa:
Rhogam shot, which I found out was just loaded with mercury. I mean, 100 plus micrograms of mercury in a Rhogam shot. Holy cow! A flu shot has 25 micrograms of mercury and causes problems. Imagine that. That’s a lot of mercury. I mean, there’s other—
Merily:
Fortunately, I wasn’t Rh-negative.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right, but again—
Merily:
My cousin Lisa, who is the mother of the twins that we inherited and adopted, Bill and Olivia, our kids now, they were 20. We got them when they were seven. Before that time, they pretty much did everything conventionally. Ironically enough. Lisa was Rh-negative. She did get the Rhogam shot. Dillon, after the second, well, he was not quite right after the first MMR shot when he was four. After the second one, he definitely digressed further and ended up being diagnosed with sensory integration. They’re twins and—
Dr. Pompa:
Obviously on the spectrum [44:57] if you don’t know.
Merily:
Yeah, so it’s a different story for each of them because Dillon was affected early in life. Olivia became affected later. It is the estrogen in the girls that does protect from—
Dr. Pompa:
Mercury.
Merily:
Mercury and neurotoxins, but it has its hormonal implications later, for sure. With Dillon and with boys, they don’t have that protective element in place. It certainly wreaked havoc on him. We were the ones to really just go all in and do everything we could. Dillon is amazing today. I mean, he still, certainly, has certain challenges, and certain things that—but if you didn’t know, you wouldn’t know. He didn’t make eye contact. He sat upside down in chairs. There was just a host of things that made him and his behaviors abnormal, but those things are not part of his reality today.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, it’s what I teach, right. It’s part of my motivation. The cellular work that I do, the cellular detox and healing, it’s what I teach. It’s part of my passion. I got sick, and then I always like to say, I was my first patient; Dillon was my second. I’m sure there’s a few things in between. Really, it kind of worked out that way.
Let’s get into vaccines because obviously that’s the natural progression, here. I think that’s the next—beyond nursing. I mean, I don’t know that there’s much discussion there. Obviously, nursing, listen, I always tell people, at least go six months. I believe at least a year is better, but that’s not always possible for everything. The statistics there, again, babies without autoimmune, the ones that nurse, far healthier.
Look, if you looked at what’s in formulas, soy, all GMO loaded with a chemical called glyphosate that causes leaky gut, which causes autoimmune and other food sensitivities. It opens up the blood brain barrier, these chemicals that are in all of these infant formulas. I mean, soy, corn, the bad fats, sugar, it’s just disgusting. I can’t even go there. Even the best formula that your doctor says he recommends, I tell you, you break down to its ingredients, you go to my website, and you’ll be appalled at the ingredients.
Nothing is better than mother’s milk, ever, perfect balance. Here’s something cool. I want to get off this, but the baby, literally, communicates via the areola around the nipple, with the mom to tell the mom’s body, [47:29] tells us exactly what it needs. In other words, when the baby needs more protein, it tells the mom. The mom makes more protein. When the baby needs more fat, guess what, tells mom it needs more fat. Even specific vitamins, minerals, it’s that stinking smart.
Merily:
By the way, that’s the intelligence I was referring to. Not everyone might readily find that information or understand it. It doesn’t matter because it’s the stuff that—the mechanisms God put in place that we’re not necessarily always going to find in our research. I mean, that is something you did, but even if you don’t, there’s just things you cannot quantify that are so critically vital to the outcome and the potential for the foundation that you’re laying for your child for life.
Dr. Pompa:
Look, this show’s already controversial, but oh gosh, if we [48:16] vaccines. We’ve had past shows on vaccines, so I don’t want to hit it too hard.
Merily:
Childhood, let’s go to childhood. Let’s not talk about vaccines today. Let’s just talk about feeders. How about feeders?
Dr. Pompa:
One thing I want to say is look, you did your homework on vaccines. When you did your reading, and that’s what I’m recommending for every person listening, [48:35] wise. You did your homework. Then you were telling everyone, do you realize what’s in these vaccines, aborted fetal tissue?
Merily:
Monkey puss.
Dr. Pompa:
Monkey puss.
Merily:
Antifreeze.
Dr. Pompa:
Antifreeze, yeah, I mean I’m not kidding. Google it. Google the ingredients in any shot, MMR, whatever it is. You will be appalled. There’s two problems with vaccines. Number one, the toxicity and what’s in them, but number two, they stimulate the wrong immune system. They stimulate not a life-long immune system, which we call Th1 reaction, but a Th2, where it’s an emergency reaction. Again, that’s why we have to get boosters every three years.
Merily:
You’re not contracting it the way—
Dr. Pompa:
Right, you’re not contracting the normal way, so that stimulates the wrong immune system. Anyway, two huge issues with vaccines. Let’s move away from that because we have done a lot of shows on that. By the way, I’m going to argue that that is probably—what we’ve talked about thus far in vaccines probably has more to do with your child’s health—no, your adult health, than anything that we can even talk about from this point on. I’m not kidding. This is where the mistakes are made.
Vaccines, look, if you—go to my website. Watch an interview I did with Del Bigtree. It will be airing soon. I don’t know when this is going to air, but it will be airing soon, and it will be vaccine related. He is the producer of—called Vaxxed, and it’s about—the movie is about the cover up from the CDC with vaccines. The very study that pediatricians hold up is that there’s no link between vaccines and autism. That study was falsified. That movie is about that coverup.
It is devastating. It’s not an antivaccine movie, it is about this coverup. Let me tell you something, you’d better watch it. Watch my interview with Del Bigtree on vaccines. It’s coming up on Cellular Healing TV at my website, drpompa, P-O-M-P-A dot com. Watch that. Please watch that.
We talk about other solutions in some other shows there about vaccines. If you’re not going to vaccinate, what can you do to make sure your child’s immune system is maximized. We call that real immunity because it’s innate immunity. There’s another show on real immunity. Watch that one too. That one’s already up, for sure. Let’s talk about infancy here going forward. What are some key things that they need to know?
Merily:
Babies get sick. It’s okay. If you’re nursing, you don’t need to be freaked out. Oh, the other thing I did that everybody told me not to do is all my babies slept on their stomach, every one of them.
Dr. Pompa:
They feel secure.
Merily:
They feel secure, I mean, every one of them. Never, ever once was I concerned, not for a fraction of a second. Again, if you start doing your research there, you learn sudden infant death is more related. They found correlations between those statistics and vaccinations.
Dr. Pompa:
I think this is our last segment already. It is. Oh my gosh, wow, that went super-fast. Can you come on next week’s show? We’re going to do part two. We’re going to do part two to the show because there’s so much more. We’ll talk more about nutrition and some of these other things. Stay tuned for part two.