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Episode 12: Anti Aging and Longevity

Warren:

I woke up this morning, Dr. Pompa, and I’m 42 years old, and the mornings are getting rougher and rougher for me, because when I get up, because my face is all squished up against the pillow, and then I look in the mirror, and there’s wrinkles. They’re there, and I didn’t notice them five, ten years ago. My—what do you call it? The knowing that my time is coming to an end, that my clock is ticking is now something that I actually think about at 42, whereas at 35, I did not. I’m like, eh, forever. Fame. I’m going to live through it. Remember that song?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah.

Warren:

I like doing [00:01:37]. What can we do about this, because my clock is ticking. What is our clock? How does our clock get measured? This topic of anti-aging, longevity, this is a hot topic. It’s one of the biggest parts of the health and wellness—it’s a two-trillion-dollar industry, and the anti-aging piece of it is a major chunk of the health and wellness, because we’re all looking for the fountain of youth. We’re all looking to live younger, and more importantly, live a healthier, longer life, and in today’s world, as we know, people may be living a longer life, but it’s very unhealthy, so this topic of removing one’s wrinkles and anti-aging today is going to be really, really special.

Dr. Pompa:

When we look at the—

Warren:

Talk about telomeres, maybe.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, you just said the word that people don’t know, but there is a biological clock that we can measure. We’re able to see how long we’re going to live. It compares our actual age to our cellular age. We’ll get there. When we look at this topic, there is millions and millions and millions of dollars being spent on trying to live longer, and it really, though—you have to understand, it’s not just trying to live longer, because who would want to live longer if you don’t do it healthy? When we look at this topic of anti-aging, really it crosses into every disease, because so many of the things, whether it’s arthritis, pain—you can go down a whole list, even heart disease and cancer, really—we look at the increase the older you get, the incidence of these conditions that we all are familiar with, touches us all in some way or another, family members, loved ones, friends. They will face them. We’re dealing with them, people we love and know, so the topic of anti-aging really crosses into that, whether you want to say, well, I don’t really want to live longer—yeah, you may not, but you want to live healthier, so when we look at these telomeres—okay, so imagine. Look down at your shoes, if you have them on. Maybe you have shoelaces. If you do have shoelaces, that little plastic coating on the end of your shoelace, think of that as these telomeres.

Now, let me bring it into more perspective here. Your shoelace would be your chromosomes that hold your DNA. That little plastic coating is there to protect your shoelace so it doesn’t fray, right? As soon as that little plastic coating comes off, your shoelace is pretty much done, useless. Same with our DNA and our chromosomes. These telomeres are there, somehow protecting them, but a similar analogy, once these telomeres are a certain length, then we die. We are born—well, upon conception, about 15 thousand measurable bases is how we measure these, so just think of bases as inches, if you will. Obviously, it’s not inches, but you know what I’m saying, some type of measuring stick, so these bases, 15 thousand is where we start, and we die at right around five thousand, so therefore we’re playing with about ten thousand of these, and we are able to measure to see where you are on this longevity score, if you will.

You can actually get this test done. We’ll tell you on this show where to do that, but this is a biological clock, and literally we can tell how close we are to death. Pretty scary, would you say? Very accurate, by the way. This is technology that’s come a long way. When they first started doing this, it wasn’t as accurate, even though they were testing it, and the tests were—I think the very first test, it was thousands, and then it went down to hundreds, and then it was three hundred not that long ago. Now, you can go to Teloyears, and you can actually—that’s Teloyears, like your years.com.

Warren:

Teloyears?

Dr. Pompa:

Mm-hmm, and—

Warren:

That’s a show note for the team.

Dr. Pompa:

Yep. Yep, absolutely, and you can actually, for 98 bucks, you can measure your telomeres at Teloyears and see what your biological age compared to your actual age, or I like to call it your cellular age, so therefore you may be 50.

Warren:

We did this before with—what was the name of the other company that we did it with?

Dr. Pompa:

SpectraCell.

Warren:

Ten years ago. SpectraCell, and it was a great test, and just to let everybody know, because Dr. Pompa’s actually younger than me, even though he’s ten years old, so I think my hazardous waste days have really rocked me. I’m not as young as I look, put it that way, at the cellular level. We’re working on it. Doc is actually very young cellularly.

Dr. Pompa:

I just ran a different—I just ran a Teloyears myself—by the way, it’s T-E-L-Oyears.com. I just ran a new one myself, because I’m doing things right now that we’ll talk about in the show. I want to see how much I can push the clock back, I guess. I’m into that. I just bought a device that we talked about on a past show called a Beamer that we know has a massive impact on these telomeres, so just kind of some really fun stuff, and this is going to be a really fun show, because I think this is a really, really important topic if you want to not just live longer but really not live it miserable. I want to be able to go skiing with my kids in my 80s and 90s. I will be doing those things, but I’m not going to just take my chance. I’m going to earn it. I’m going to do everything in my power that we’re going to share with you on the show that really can turn back the clock and again live longer healthy so I’m able to function without pain, function with my complete mind.

By the way, Warren, this is an important topic here, because when we look at statistics for dementia, Alzheimer’s, it’s scary. By 2050, we’re talking about a third of the population being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s over the age of 65. That’s—wow. One in three. Those are big numbers. We have to understand that that’s going to be us unless you choose differently, and again, that’s one condition. Then, you throw heart disease and cancer in there. You’re pretty much—it’s going to be you, unless you choose otherwise. Look, we know that people can live longer, healthy lives. The woman, Anna, we talked about her on a past show, I think, right? She just recently died. She was from Italy and 117 years old, you know, so we can remind people of what we talked about on that show, because Anna did some very specific things to live that long, all part of it.

Warren:

She drank resveratrol wine, right? Maybe she—

Dr. Pompa:

I’m sure she drank some wine. Over there, they drink wine like water. I remember the first time I was in Italy, and it was early in the morning, and I’m sure we had something to drink the night before. I looked over, and I saw these two old ladies drinking wine first thing in the morning. I said, oh, my God.

Warren:

Different culture. When we come back, we’re going to go into some of the dieting sides of living longer and anti-aging. We’ll be right back after a message from our sponsors.

Dr. Pompa, many of us, including myself, are aging at the cellular level. We don’t know it, we can’t see it, yet when you measure it on a telomere test, like the one from SpectraCell and then Teloyears, I think you just said, we’re finding out that, at the cellular level, we’re aging. Our shoestrings are unraveling, our life, but that can be reversed, science is showing. We’re going to get into some of those things, and the scary thing is, we talk a lot about toxicity. That’s one of the things that are near and dear to our heart, because it helps support when you detoxify. I’m trying to use the right words here, but the reality is that toxins are shortening our telomeres. They’re causing issues big-time and unraveling those strings, and we don’t know that it’s happening, because it’s happening behind the scenes. Now that we know—I know that when I took the test that I was like, holy cow, I got some issues here, and I’m glad that I did it when I was 38 versus 62 to realize I have ten years left, but I have a lot of time left, and so do our listeners.

Health hunters, the fountain of youth here is within you. Your body’s designed to anti-age naturally. It’s the things that we do, like raising glucose and insulin, like toxicity and all the things that we’re dealing with. Amalgam fillings we’ve talked about. All these different things are shortening our lifespan, and some folks are in so much pain that they want to die. They want their telomeres—and that’s not necessary, either. We’re health hunters. We do discover and find the truth, so what are some of the dietary things that you’ve done, because I know that you’re younger than you should be. You’re going to live longer than all the others statistically, based on the testing you’ve done, but I’m afraid that many of our health hunters here don’t have the luxury of that, because they don’t know the secrets, so what are some of the things you’ve done, been across, because I know that you’re really, really into this right now, specifically, because you are in your 50s, and many of our listeners are as well.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, well, you said one thing. Toxicity will shorten those telomeres very rapidly, because they create so much oxidative stress and inflammation, so it affects the DNA, right? If we want to turn on a bad gene, we give a mouse certain toxins, certain neurotoxins, whether it be mercury, BPA, these things that we’re all exposed to. We know that it turns on certain bad genes. By the way, when we do other things, we can turn on genes, one called the SIRT1 gene, which is called the longevity gene. We can turn that on, or we can turn it off. Certain toxins will turn that gene on that we like to see turned on, because you do, in fact, live longer. It protects your telomeres, and we’re discovering other genes like that, so toxins, we know, can turn on bad genes, turn off good ones. Detoxing at the cellular level, and we’ve done past shows on this—that’s where real detox is. A lot of people think that detox—that ten-day cleanse they buy at the health food store is a cleanse. Yeah, it might make you poop more, but not doing much at the cell.

Warren:
I like those.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, well, it helps. Definitely something I’m not—I’m not against it. However, understand that those cleanses do help you in that way, but really, real detox, you have to go to the cell. By the way, that’s where your telomeres are. That’s where your DNA is, so that’s what we really have to get functioning through real detox. You must get the cell working. That is real detox. We can talk about some of those things when we get to supplements, which is later in the show, about what you can do to help that cellular function, cellular detox, because really I’ve done a lot of that cellular detox. That’s something I’m known for. It’s something I teach doctors around the country, but honestly, if you’re going to age slower, age well, and add years to your life, healthy ones, you better understand cellular detox.

Now, there’s another topic here that is—so we’re hitting the big ones. Here’s a big one. You want to age slow, you better control glucose and insulin. You want to age fast, just spike insulin and glucose. This is a dual topic here, because every time you put food in your mouth, you actually spike glucose and insulin. That doesn’t mean you don’t eat, but you have to understand that, even eating a salad, you’re still spiking insulin and glucose, so if we know that these spikes cause this oxidative inflammation challenge to the cell, then we should just do that less often. When you look at studies on anti-aging, there’s something that holds up better than anything, and that is basically caloric restriction. Now, I am not a fan of caloric restriction for weight loss, because the metabolism gets slower and slower and slower, so how do we justify all of these studies that’s basically saying eat less, and this is the key to living longer? You can’t argue it. The studies are that strong, but yet I talk about how bad caloric restriction is. Simple, and we’ve done a show on this. Don’t eat less. Eat less often. What do I mean by that? Meaning that I only eat one meal a day or one and a half, maybe two meals a day, so at the end of the day, I do eat less, but I do it by eating less often, not restricting calories.

When we look at these studies, and we look at ancient cultures, we say, yeah, okay, the Okinawa people, the [00:16:19] people, they do eat less, and therefore they are extending their life, but they do it by eating less often. In Europe, when we look at Rome, the Greeks, they ate basically one big meal, and then, of course, in Europe, the continental breakfast came out of nowhere. It’s basically non-breakfast for an American, because they really don’t eat, so skip breakfast. There’s an idea. Maybe you skip dinner, and you have breakfast. The point is, you go longer without eating. We eat in maybe a six- to eight-hour window. That’s it. You’re fasting.

Now, there’s all types of reasons why, Warren, this extends your life or your telomeres in our topic of conversation. One is the caloric restriction. At the end of the day, you are eating less. Number two is you’re spiking glucose and insulin far less times, because you’re doing it less. Every time you put the handful of nuts in your mouth, yeah, glucose and insulin spike, absolutely causing cellular challenges. Eating less, spiking glucose and insulin less, and then, also, in this fasting state, magic happens. You are creating a growth hormone spike, which growth hormone creates healing, anti-inflammation, turns off bad genes—oh, and by the way, it’s shown, in fasting states, even like this, even 16, 18 hours like we’re talking about here daily, we are talking about bad cells dying. Okay, so cells that aren’t good, and bad cells, bad genes getting turned off. That’s just in a short fast, so that’s why something called intermittent fasting daily, something that I do, extends your life and your telomeres. It works. There you go. I gave you the big ones just right off the bat as far as the things that I’ve done.

Warren:

One of the things that we’re going to talk about, maybe some of the anti-aging foods, but this intermittent fasting thing is really the power that makes a difference. We can give you all the foods, the ones for wrinkles, the olive oils, the fish, but intermittent fasting is the way to go. When we come back, we’ll talk a little bit about exercise, some foods, some supplements to increase that [00:18:37] and anti-aging. We’ll be right back after the announcements.

Dr. Pompa, I ended the last thing talking about announcements. Maybe I’m dating myself, because we had class announcements every day at my school, and there I was, talking about announcements instead of information from our sponsors, who rock. We appreciate you.

Here’s the culture code. Here’s what the culture believes, Dan. They’re looking for—there’s millions of dollars, more than that probably, hundreds of millions of dollars made on resveratrol. I’m just going to take the resveratrol pill, right? This MLM, that MLM did that, and they look for the magic fruit from the mountain of x, y, z, Himalaya, grown in the certain soil, which produces this noni berry that will transform and anti-age your life. Hooey. It’s all hooey. I mean, it’s good. Those things are great, and it’s great for eating different foods and diet variation so you’re getting exposed to different bacteria, especially if you don’t wash those things, because they’re not toxic, and they’re organic and natural. There’s so many great benefits to the human for eating these antioxidant-rich foods. We talk about telomeres, and telomeres get unraveled through oxidative stress caused by toxins, bad foods, and then we have these antioxidants, which protect the telomere sheath, if you will. Correct me if I’m wrong on that, Dr. Pompa.

There are these certain foods, which are good, but—or, and the magic gun is really the intermittent fasting, following the lifestyles of these ancient cultures. They really didn’t look at—they’re looking at the berry they’re eating, but they’re missing the pink elephant in the room, which is the intermittent fasting. They don’t get up and eat breakfast in the morning. I mean, come on. They get up, and they may eat a few herbs, and then they may have a little snack later in the afternoon from a few berries, and then they sit down and eat their dried meat or dried fish or whatever they’re eating that day. If they’re up in the Himalayas, I’m not sure, maybe dried goat for dinner. That’s probably the real reason or the main reason for anti-aging and all the benefits that they’re experiencing, but there are some foods out there, and I want to get into exercise and foods. Let’s hold off on the foods, and let’s go to the exercise side, because that’ll lead into some supplements and things that some of our health hunters may know.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, look. Okay, so this caloric restriction that we’re talking about, by eating less often, not by saying, hey, I’m going to eat half my meal. That doesn’t work. That does lower the metabolism. We have to remind the body it’s not starving, and that’s why eating—when you do eat, you eat.

Warren:

You eat.

Dr. Pompa:

You eat to full. You know what? I think that there is another big one, since we’re hitting all the biggies right off the bat. When you look at exercise, I’ve said—we’ve even done past shows on it. Exercise for weight loss, it’s not what people think. It doesn’t bring you these massive benefits. We’re not fat, and we’re not a fat nation because we’re lacking exercise. Nope, we actually exercise more than any nation, so it really is a hormone issue, and exercise can be the cherry on the top with exercise, meaning you do get this hormone optimization that occurs when we exercise, so it has a little bit of an effect on weight loss, not as much as you think, and again, past show. However, the hormone part actually has more to do with longevity, has more to do with extending your telomeres, your life. However, when you look at the studies, if you want the biggest bang for your buck if you’re going to exercise, because many of you are like, God, I hate it, I don’t want to do it, right? It’s like, so if you’re going to do it, here’s how you really get the most out of the time you exercise, and by the way, the good news is studies show you really don’t have to put a lot of time into it.

All right, there’s a certain type of exercise that does more, and when you exercise also is important. You want to exercise in a fasting state. You get the most hormone optimization, the most growth hormone spike, so if you exercise while fasting, and then instead of the old, okay, as soon as you’re done exercising, eat, ride out this major growth hormone spike that studies show you get more of when you’re exercising on an empty stomach. This growth hormone rises up to protect your muscle, forces you into a greater fat-burning mode, because it makes you more hormone-sensitive, and therefore the extension of telomeres, the protection of telomeres, the downregulation of inflammation occurs greatest when you exercise on an empty stomach, give it an hour or two after before eating, and ride out that growth hormone rise.

There. Now, what about how to exercise? I love endurance exercise, but we know, if you look at a marathon runner, these distance runners, no doubt, they can age faster. If you look at a sprinter, someone who does higher intensity, they definitely don’t get the anti—or they definitely don’t get the premature aging as the marathon runner gets. Why is that? They actually even get a protective benefit, because the higher-intensity exercise doesn’t create as much oxidative stress, and it actually produces more growth hormone rise, more hormone sensitivity, which ultimately is more anti-aging, so higher intensity, higher intensity on an empty stomach. By the way, I’m not against endurance type of exercise. I love it. I’m a cyclist. I am saying, for anti-aging, higher intensity. Do it on an empty stomach. There’s magic in it.

Warren:

That’s so important, because the bodybuilding age—again, these 80s bodybuilders, they’re looking—it was the steroid time. It was the amino acids, and it’s one of the ones that are used. It’s the glutamine for the growth hormone, and raising growth hormone naturally obviously increases your ability, your testosterone, your anti-aging, and your muscle, and all those things are important. When you look at the studies, glutamine does work. There’s a study out there. I remember looking at it, I don’t know, maybe eight, nine years ago, and it said that, if you took at least one gram but preferably two grams, you raise your glutamine levels in your blood plasma, and it has a fourfold, roughly, increase in growth hormone. Four times.

That is awesome, right, Dr. Pompa? Wouldn’t you want to raise your growth hormone post work-out, 60 minutes after, fourfold? Perfect. Take it on an empty stomach. There’s a strategy and a trick in a supplement, but what you just said, the exercise and the high-intensity training, guess what it is known—well, you probably know this answer, but I’ll ask you. How many times does it raise your growth hormone? Just guess, if you don’t have this study in front of you.

Dr. Pompa:

Two times.

Warren:

Twentyfold, so it was your point, right? I was trying to help you make your point is that it is the magic bullet when it comes to anti-aging. It is the intermittent fasting and then the exercise, because it raises your growth hormone twentyfold versus fourfold by taking an outside supplement and altering your body that way, so that, what your body innately does, the health hunter concept, right? Remove the interference. The body does the healing, but doing the things that you are designed to do, raise your growth hormone, give you—when you raise your growth hormone, do you ever get a libido burst after working out? I know that I do, like an hour later. I do have a—whoa, what’s going on here? Honey, where are you? She’s nowhere to be around. That’s also the challenge. It’s like, hey, can’t do that now. We’ve got to work. Trying to make our health hunters laugh. I hope you’re having a good time as I embarrass myself for your benefit here on Health Hunters Radio. It does that, and that is why.

If you want—you don’t have to do testosterone cream, guys. Start doing things—by the way, that can lead to cancer and all other things, because you’re pushing pathways that shouldn’t be pushed. You’re creating hormones and byproducts that are toxic to your body, so when you do those things, there’s consequences to going outside of the health hunter system, if you will, by doing what your body innately will do when you do the right things. We have the intermittent fasting. We have the high-intensity training to cause the anti-aging benefits that you really, really want, deserve, and should do. Who doesn’t want better libido? That’s awesome. When we come back, let’s talk about the foods and some more supplements and antioxidants that really can do those benefits, and yes, I’ll probably mention blueberries, even though everybody mentions blueberries. Right after this, we’ll be right back.

Dr. Pompa, if we were the internet marketers of today, we would probably just write a title in that last segment, Exercise—High-Intensity Exercise, The Viagra For Your Life, and that would get—you couldn’t say Viagra, because that would be a trademark term, but anyway, for increasing your libido, so that would be a big win on the internet. However, that’s not our position. That may be our position for the benefit, but that’s not what we’re going to say today. It makes sense. It is the exercise. It is a great libido stimulant, and more importantly, it’s going to throw all kinds of growth hormone, which is massively anti-aging. Now, when I say that, Dan, what is the mechanism of growth hormone? Does that shorten or lengthen your telomeres again as well?

Dr. Pompa:

It does. Growth hormone has an impact on every cell, anti-inflammatory, turns on the good genes, turns off the bad genes. There’s all types of things that it does. It’s anabolic, right? It heals tissue so you build up, not break down. If you really look at death, it’s a catabolic state that gets accelerated, meaning you’re breaking down. You’re in a state of decay. Growth hormone is the opposite of that, right? It’s building up. It’s anabolic. It’s healing, anti-inflammatory, so yeah, so growth hormone, as it’s known—that’s why you have a lot of people paying 15 hundred a month, injecting it. However, the problem with that is, your body stops producing it. That leads to a problem later, and we know that it can actually create some insulin resistance, so we just—you do get a benefit. I know a lot of the movie stars are injecting it, because literally it takes back the clock. It can make them feel and look ten, 20 years younger. Their joints get better. The pain goes away. That’s the power of growth hormone. However, there’s no shortcuts. You start injecting it, you’re messing with the body chemistry, and we’ve learned more. Long-term, it’s not working out. However, if we do these things we’re talking about in this show, then the cellular detox, the cellular work, the caloric restriction via not eating less, eating less often, AKA fasting.

By the way, I didn’t even get to talk about that. You know, one fast per year, what I call block fast or AKA extended fast, just one four- to seven-day fast a year, is unbelievable for how much, how many years it adds on to your life. There’s a few reasons. I mentioned briefly the word autophagy, where your body’s getting rid of bad cells and bad DNA. When you do an extended fast, your body’s just getting rid of all these bad proteins that age you, all these bad DNA that are already problematic and keep replicating bad cells, so doing one extended fast a year—Thomas Seyfried, in his book, Cancer Is a Metabolic Disease, he said just one fast like that a year really prevents cancer. He believed that it really would ward off all cancers if everyone did that. When you look at ancient cultures, and that’s his opinion, but when you look at ancient cultures, you see that they were forced typically into fasting one year, and the Hunza people, who live longest on the planet at one point, they fasted once every year. Matter of fact, it became known as starvation spring. They were forced into it. Then, it became a cultural thing. However, when we looked at the Hunza people, everyone had a lot of reasons why we thought they lived so long. It was really starvation spring. It was the fast, so fasting daily, fasting block, that’s the way to go.

All right, I know y’all want the foods. What’s some foods that we—

Warren:

Blueberries.

Dr. Pompa:

The studies show that—blueberries.

Warren:

Blueberries.

Dr. Pompa:

Proanthocyanidin.

Warren:

Yeah, good luck.

Dr. Pompa:

Resveratrol. See, he’s saying the foods, and I’m saying the actual chemical, if you will, that is actually linked to lifesaving.

Warren:

All right, let me ask you again. Dark chocolate. What’s in that one?

Dr. Pompa:

Polyphenols, flavonoids. Anyway, we look at these things, though, and we go, okay, do they have an impact? They do. I’m a fan of really getting these things naturally. DHA, everyone’s familiar—let’s take fish oil. The more studies—I looked. I spent months researching this one time, because I was giving a lecture, and it was very, very disappointing when you look at the results of fish oil, but yet we know that DHA, a certain type of fat found in fish, can extend your life and turn on all these good genes, but you’ve got to eat the fish. Sardines I’d put at the top of my list. Cheap, easy, clean fish. Buy some sardines. Put a little habanero sauce on it. Man. Boom. Extend your life. Add some blueberries. Add some dark chocolate, right? These are good things. Hey, have a glass of wine. The resveratrol and other flavonoids, and all the—

Warren:

Let’s get the trick from that of the wine. Don’t get the California again. Nothing against our California friends and helping the economy in California. That’s all great. What a great experience that is, probably worth the hangover, possibly, because it is such a good time, doing a wine tour. Been there, done that. However, these wines from France, Italy, and even some from Spain, they just don’t have the sugar, so you don’t get the hangover, so you’re getting a lot of the benefits in moderation, of course, of anti-aging, because you’re not overloading on the alcohol, and you don’t have the sugars that the wines in California—

Dr. Pompa:

There’s a lot of other things. See, in Europe, it’s actually against the law to irrigate, hence the word dry-farmed, meaning that basically it’s non-irrigation. The vines have to go oftentimes 50 feet down to find water. That makes for a better plant, a better grape, and a better wine, so therefore you find higher levels of these things that we need that make the wine healthy. Most Napa are irrigating, which brings, by the way, more chemicals. I have to say this right off the top. There’s 76 chemicals allowed in American wine, and it doesn’t have to be on the label, so that’s a problem. In Europe, it’s not allowed. Simple. They’re not allowed to irrigate. They’re not allowed to use the chemicals.

Something called glyphosate is outlawed, which is what we spray, so even the vineyards in Napa that are organic, they still end up with some of this glyphosate chemical, which is devastating to our cells, and the reason is because they’re irrigating, and water runoff is being shared and therefore chemicals. Yeah, we’re not getting that in Europe, so the California, European, the French—I’m sorry, the French, Italian, and the Spanish wines are definitely safer because of their rules. The old style of practicing is what they do, and they have those rules that they have to do it the old-fashioned way, so you’re going to get a different wine there. Yes, wine without getting drunk is going to be a positive.

Warren:

Without getting drunk. Let’s not talk about it. You’re telling me once again that, when you follow nature and do what nature does and not come in and do the mass farming, but you do these artisanal—the way the—working with the land, working with God’s creation, if you will, works to produce the highest quality, the things that give you health and life. When you’re reading the Bible, they drank wine all the time, but it was a type of wine that was full of antioxidants, likely. They weren’t irrigating their vineyards. They were letting the land produce the berry, the fruits that was intended, so that’s the health hunter way, right? It’s the tribal—our health hunter tribe here. When we get away from those things, and we just do it for the economics of it, and again, that’s just the way that it is. A lot of the conspiracy out there is just economically driven, and we want it with foods that aren’t as healthy, but there are some great foods from other cultures that are anti-aging. Green tea. If I was going to do an anti-aging tea, it would be green tea, because it does—it makes me feel awesome, especially late in the day instead of drinking coffee, which is a strong herb, by the way, but it can have some anti-aging benefits. All these things are powerful herbs, and they should be cycled around, right? You’re eating—

Dr. Pompa:

Rooibos.

Warren:

Yep, rooibos tea. Rooibos. We had that in Africa. Very anti-aging. Delicious. There’s multiple teas. Maybe get three or four and cycle around them every three to four months so that you’re going to get the benefit, because your body will adapt to something that you do this often.

Dr. Pompa:

Let’s give them a—I was just going to say—we were leaving the wine, and I meant to give them—we could put it in the show notes, but a friend, Tom White, Dry Farm Wines, we have to give him kudos. What a blessing he’s been, because he imports these wines, so Dry Farm Wines. We’ll hook you up to his website. I tell you, you can bring a whole case, inexpensive, healthiest wines, and by the way, no sugar. He has standards, no chemicals, all of it. We didn’t even get to talk about the supplements. I’ll make it easy for you in the show notes. The core supplements that we use to fix the cell. It’s called the Core Cellular Package. It has everything in it. All right, there you go. We gave them the supplements as well and the wine.

Warren:

We’ll see you next week, guys. Have a great time.