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Episode 28: Hormone Optimization

Warren:

Yes, health hunters. You know it’s wintertime, and I don’t know if it’s the lack of sunshine or everything I drank and ate. I’m not going to admit that I probably overindulged. Even as a health hunter, we all have those mistakes, and my hormones are off now. I don’t know, Dr. Pompa. I’m feeling a little depressed, a little down, and I’m also—maybe I’m just a little beat up from the toxic food and beverages I had over the holidays. What’s going on with these hormone challenges that we all get to face and deal with, especially in the wintertime?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, well, I think you’re right. I think it can have something to do with sun. It could have definitely something to do with toxicity, diet, light—well, we said sun, but I’m talking about indoor lights, computers, without outdoor light. It could have a lot to do with a lot of those things, and you know what’s en vogue right now more than ever? Bioidentical hormones. Most people listening think this is the answer, I know.

Warren:

Yeah, the numbers are throwing them off. I know that. Even my natural guys.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, everyone’s taking hormones. Oh, it’s en vogue. You can’t throw a stone without hitting someone taking hormones.

Warren:

Guess who doesn’t need—you know who doesn’t need hormones and who’s almost always happy if she’s rested is my little daughter, who’s searching for me right now, and she’s down here, so if you hear a little puppy, my little puppy with the beautiful heart shirt on right now and her little, purple pants, she’s hormonal, too. They get tired, right? Their cortisol level goes up, and they get grumpy. These little, beautiful humans turn sour on you, so when the rest of their cortisol levels are correct, just like us—nothing has changed. You need to get sleep as well, right, Dr. Pompa? That’s another big part of it.

Let’s dive into optimizing our hormones and hormone optimization in this today, because I know a lot of even our health experts that we work with, some of them are big into those bioidentical hormones now to elevate their mood, even doing low-dose testosterone. There’s some major consequences. We can discuss that as we move through these segments, and then, obviously, in our final segment, we’ll give you some of the answers, but let’s start off with what most people are facing today. They’re down right now. Antidepressants are an option, bioidentical hormones to raise their estrogen, certain estrogen levels and testosterone levels, and they’re getting on these hormones.

Dr. Pompa:

Progesterone.

Warren:

Yep, progesterone, especially postpartum. A lot of these, especially being a mom that goes through a trauma like that in a body that’s not really resilient to having a child. I know my wife’s progesterone levels post having a child were way off, and her hormones luckily recovered with some of the natural things, and some of them we’ll share, but this is a big issue, especially in women, because their testosterone is naturally a little bit lower, and even obviously in men, too. I notice it in the winter.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, I think that this is more common than ever. Look, we’ve done past shows on it. I don’t want to relive them, but I coined a term called toxic-induced hormone resistance and also toxic-induced weight loss resistance, really basically the same issue that many people have, and this time of year, with people trying to lose weight, they’re going to have difficulty sticking to a diet, and we’ll explain. It’s not your fault, and also losing weight, and that’s not your fault necessarily, either. It can be a toxic-induced issue, but the toxins affect the hormones many ways, which we can review and talk about, because it really is an understanding of why people don’t feel well today, despite doing a lot of great things, but it also explains this hormone issue.

Let me just start with one great example. Ladies and men—well, either way, this applies to you. The hair starts thinning, right? The skin gets dry. Weight loss becomes more difficult. Low energy, brain fog, possibly constipation. How many people did I identify with out there? Oh, you don’t sleep as well anymore. Even when you do, you wake up tired. Okay, am I hitting home anywhere? I just brought up—that’s just one hormone right there potentially, and that’s thyroid hormone. Okay, well, this is an epidemic today. You say, I have these symptoms, you go to your doctor, he does a blood test. Some of you get back the test, normal. Darn, I thought that was my answer. It was Susie’s answer. Darn. Thought it was mine.

You go on about your way. Maybe then, it’s another two years, five years. You go back to the doctor, take a blood test. Oh, here’s the problem. Your thyroid hormones are low, or your TSH is elevated, so they put you on a hormone, thyroxine, another possible thyroid hormone, and it’s called T4 actually is what it is. It’s a stored hormone. It needs to be converted into an active hormone called T3, and T3 talks to your cell, and then you feel better hopefully, or it most often goes like this. You take the hormone. You might have felt a little better, some of you not at all, but my hair’s still dry. I thought my energy was a little better, but now it’s kind of back to the same. I still am not losing weight, so gosh, I better go back to the doctor and make sure this hormone is working. He takes your blood. Oh, perfect. Your blood levels are now perfect, so that’s awesome. You’re on your way. Doc, hold on, I’m still not losing weight. I still don’t have good energy. I still have brain fog, constipation. Yeah, but your blood levels are good, so you’re fine. It must be something else. Is it something else?

Let me tell a different story. See, he gives you this T4 hormone. One of the problems is, it has to be converted into the active hormone, T3. What he didn’t tell you is you may not be converting it, and then your blood work would look normal, but you don’t feel well, so what’s the problem? He didn’t tell you that you need a good liver to actually make that conversion. Oh, and if you have a toxic liver, you don’t make that conversion very well. Darn, didn’t tell me that. Oh, he didn’t tell you that certain heavy metals can interfere with something called selenium, and you need selenium to make that conversion. Gosh, didn’t tell me that.

Oh, he didn’t tell you this, either, that even if you make the conversion to that T3 active hormone, well, the T3 has to attach to your cell membrane to a receptor and then tell your cell what to do, and then you feel good, and then you can burn fat for energy and all that good stuff. Toxins attach to those darn receptors on the cell, and they interfere with that communication. Then, your blood work looks normal, and you still don’t feel well. He didn’t tell you that, either. Oh, he didn’t tell you this, either, that your pituitary and hypothalamus in the center of your brain is actually what controls your thyroid. Oh, and your adrenals, which regulate all your hormones. Yeah, and there’s so many studies showing that heavy metals and other toxins accumulate there, and when they’re toxic, I don’t care what you do downstream with your hormones, you don’t feel well. Oh, and your blood work looks normal.

Warren, that’s the sad reality of what we’re dealing with with most of the population today, hormone dysregulation, toxic-induced. Bad news.

Warren:

Yeah, way worse than lack of sunshine, that’s for sure, and it is the pink elephant in the room. Ironically enough, last night, had a dinner. A lady, she didn’t look 60. She looked as healthy as can be, 60 years old. I thought she was 50. Beautiful lady, her and her husband, and she starts to open up about, I’m into health, right? I’m a health hunter, so we start discussing all of these things, and she has been depressed, out of energy. I’ll tell you her story after these special announcements from our sponsors, but we’ll tell you her story, and I know you can relate to it, right when we get back.

Welcome back, health hunters, and let’s jump back into that story, because I just think it’s all too common, and ironically, I am totally giving you exactly what happened last night. This lady has been sick, depressed. She said, it’s just like I always choose the negative. The glass is half-empty all the time, and she knows that’s not her. She’s a wonderful lady, raised in a wonderful home. They’re just beautiful people. They have a beautiful story and a wonderful marriage, very successful, great children. Everything’s perfect, but she just couldn’t believe what she knew in her heart she needed to believe, and so it was rough, but she has a wonderful husband who’s been patient with her, like my wife was patient with me. Hey, like you were patient with me, Dr. Pompa, when I was sick and living in your basement.

This is an amazing story. She went, and she had hyperthyroid, which she didn’t know is 90 whatever percent is autoimmune related, and we all have some level of thyroid dysfunction and autoimmune going on in all of our bodies in today’s environment. That’s why we have to work a little harder as health hunters to discover those—I got a—phone’s ringing. I’ve got to turn that off. She goes to her regular doctor. She puts her on Synthroid, and actually it didn’t help her at all, so right away, we know that it’s not necessarily that she needs more T4, which is what Synthroid is, correct, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes, it is T4. Correct.

Warren:
Yeah, T4, and so anyway—

Dr. Pompa:

That means it needs converted to actually work, but yes.

Warren:

Yep. She wasn’t feeling well and went back to her doctor and then went to a natural doctor, not talking about the things that we’re talking about on this show, and they put her on, I think, a combination, probably a natural thyroid and some supplements, and it did help her, but what I shared with her is, you didn’t get to the cause, and I even took natural thyroid for a month, because there’s a protocol out there that you can rest your thyroid, but you’ve got to get off the—and that was right before I got married. Remember that, Dr. Pompa? I just felt amazing, and I took it. There’s a time and a place to be on a medication. There’s no doubt. We’re not saying get off your medications, but there’s a process you have to do, and I was just honest with her.

I said, look, it’s a little more work if you want to remove those interferences, the mercury that’s in the hypothalamus and pituitary, how it interferes with the conversion of T3 to T4 on the receptor site. Again, I don’t know the science like you do, Dr. Pompa, but I was open and honest, and she was very interested in totally getting her life back and not being dependent upon this thyroid and even the supplements. That just happened last night, and she is the sweetest lady. She’s only felt good for two weeks now, so my advice to her was, in your moment of clarity, because a lot of people are so sick, they can’t even make a decision, and that was her—she said, I was just indecisive. I said, now’s the time for you to research really what is the cause of your thyroid challenges instead of using supplements and even natural thyroid, which has thyroid hormone in it, but the glandulars, which have a little bit more benefit in your regimen, so that was a very interesting and timely conversation that just happened yesterday, and just a wonderful lady. There’s so many males and females out there, husbands and wives, moms and dads that are suffering from thyroid dysfunction and don’t even know it, and it’s really altering their lives with that glass half-empty attitude, and they just can’t break it.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, that’s true.

Warren:

It’s not your fault. Your depression is not your fault. Your weight loss resistance is not your fault. Your thinning hair’s not your fault. This is being put on us on a daily basis through the unknown toxins that are entering into our bodies.

Dr. Pompa:

I think most of you listening are saying, okay, yeah, great, I get your point. That’s me. What do I do? First of all, let me invite you to—we’re doing a TCD, true cellular detox, challenge February 15, so Warren, you’ll put something up in the show notes, I’m sure, but I invite you. I’m doing it with a friend of mine and a friend of Warren’s, Ben Greenfield. He is the guru, number one fitness blog in the world. Love Ben, and he’s going to be offering a lot of his fitness strategies for weight loss resistance, and of course, when you enter this, you actually have access to a portal that is almost 20 years of my work, and it walks you through true cellular detox.

It really is thick in information, information you need. I talk about this problem. I actually do videos in about this problem, when you’re in weight loss resistance, etcetera. It also contains my advanced strategies that we’ve talked about on the show, fasting, intermittent fasting, how to measure your blood work, da, da, da. It also contains certain tests that you do for neurotoxicity, and admittedly, there’s a charge, but normally it’s two, three thousand dollars for the whole program, and it is under a thousand dollars for it, because there’s supplies. There’s the testing. There’s the supplements, etcetera, and it’s a three-month program, so I think it’s more than affordable, but anyway, I tell you that because I open up these cans of worms on these shows, and I feel like I don’t necessarily have, okay, just do this, and granted, if some of you are very, very sick and challenged, you need a coach. I can tell you that.

That’s why we’re training doctors around the country, so I don’t ever want to not reiterate that. I believe everybody needs a coach, but I think this will be good for many of you as an answer to this toxic-induced hormone problem. You have to get upstream to where the real problem is, and that’s the cell. You won’t get well until you fix the cell, and more specifically, you won’t get well, especially hormonally, until you detox the cell, so I hope that helps some of you, and I hope you join us.

By the way, it’s a blast. We do four calls along the way, Ben and I, and we’re going to dive—Ben’s like the ultimate biohacker, and he’s going to talk about all his little things that he teaches on, and me as well. We’re going to talk about far infrared saunas. We’re going to talk about light. We’re going to talk about coffee enemas and different things that we do and how we do them differently than most people to assist this cellular detox process that you’re going to learn. The portal will take you through that, and by the way, that’s part of that charge is you get access to the portal, but anyways, it’s a blast.

We keep the group tight, just because we want to engage on the call, and we have a staff, and we want to make sure everyone’s questions get answered. All right, there was a—normally, we don’t have anywhere to point them, but for right now, we do. We did this last year, by the way, Warren, a year ago, and the results were extraordinary, and that’s why Ben wanted to do it again this year, so this year, you finally have the opportunity to join us. Hope you do.

Warren:

Yeah, it’s a great program, and Ben has his whole fitness and body sculpting program, normally like two hundred bucks. That’s included, too, so all kinds of good stuff, but you can go to the website, tcdchallenge.com, in case you’re listening to this live before it gets put up on our website. Sometimes it takes a little time before the Health Hunters website populates the transcript, so yeah, moving on. We all know we’re having challenges here. We have a solution, which is nice, because we do this once a year, but on a day-to-day basis, Dr. Pompa, what are some other hormone-optimizing things that we can do? I don’t know if we want to wait until the last segment to get there, but just since we were going into solutions, I kind of want to get there.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, I like the bait, because I do want to give you some things you can start today, but we’re going to get this question, so when we get back, let’s talk about testing, because I just envision someone asking that right now. Let’s talk about the most accurate test you can do besides what your doctor’s already done, when we get back.

Warren:

You know, Dr. Pompa, I think I was just going to get sick of that music, but I don’t. I love it. It gets me fired up.

Dr. Pompa:

My head starts bobbing.

Warren:

It never gets—the guy that—it was actually from GCN Radio, a referral from GCN Radio, that guy. We put a lot of time into that, but I actually really like it. Know what else I like? Testing, because you’ve got to know where you’re at. You can’t guess whether you have reverse T3 showing autoimmune challenges, low selenium, low vitamin D, which is also a prohormone that’s really important for hormone, not just feeling good, but it’s a prohormone that affects other hormones, so let’s look into some of the tests that can really be important for us if we’re looking to optimize our hormones and see what the problems are in our hormones and the pathways.

Dr. Pompa:

Just to pick up back where we were with the thyroid, most doctors don’t measure antibodies to the thyroid, because their treatment’s the same, T4, Synthroid, whatever it is they’re giving you. It’s typically T4, but their treatment’s the same, so it really doesn’t do anything, so why should they measure the antibodies? The antibodies being high is an indicator of autoimmune thyroid, where your own immune system is actually attacking your thyroid and thyroid receptors of the hormone itself, so I would suggest having him run all the antibodies, because there is a different strategy. Again, I’m going to point you back to my website. It’s drpompa.com, where I’ve wrote many articles about this, and I have many Cellular Healing TV episodes, but yeah, so the strategy is better to know if you have autoimmune, so do that first.

Then, also reverse T3. That goes high in stressful moments. Now, if you get the flu, your reverse T3 will go up, and what it does—it’s the reverse of regular T3, and remember that’s the active hormone that needs to attach to the cell so you feel good and get its message in the cell. Reverse T3 will, in times of stress, attach to the receptor and block T3. What it does, then, is it kind of saves your energy for your cells so your body can put its energy other places, like getting better if you’re physically sick. It will do that, as I mentioned, with the flu, or even emotionally stressed, it will use the energy to adapt to that stress, and it will calm down that cellular energy, but what if you have chronic stress, like a chemical toxicity or an emotional stress that’s chronic, not going away? Husband, wife problems, whatever. Then, that reverse T3 can block that hormone, and it doesn’t matter how many hormones you take. Your blood work will look normal, but your reverse T3 is blocking the thyroid hormone getting in, so you don’t feel good. Have your doctor run a reverse T3, but don’t go by their normal ranges. Oftentimes, it’s way too broad. If you see it near the higher end of that normal range, then you may have this being part of the problem.

Again, obviously, the solutions are go upstream and remove the stressor. If you have an emotional stressor that’s not going away, that might be difficult, but the chemical thing, join us in our cellular detox program, obviously. That is the upstream answer, but yeah, you need to know that.

Oh, but what about estrogen? What about all of the other hormones, progesterone that you mentioned in the beginning, Warren?

Warren:

Testosterone, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, testosterone. Blood test, it’s good for certain things, but not for a lot of other things. There’s a better test that I like, more stable, and that’s the 24-hour urine collection complete hormone, where we look at not just estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and all those, and cortisol as well, which plays a big role, but it looks at something called estrogen metabolites, which can actually cause cancer, so a lot of people are taking hormones today, going, well, I’m taking my estrogen and progesterone, and I do feel better on these. We run this test on people. My doctors run this test on people, and oftentimes they find that people are feeling better and developing cancer.

There’s an estrogen metabolite called 4-hydroxyestrone—not that that’s important to you, but when this particular estrogen raises up, your increase of cancer risks go through the roof, especially breast cancer, so this is an important test, and it’s a test—admittedly, it’s not a cheap test. You could ask your doctor if he would run a 24-hour hormone test and have your insurance pay. If it’s cash, we do have it on our website from a lab. It’s a 679-dollar test. If you go to services and click on Discount Labs, you’ll find it there, or you can call Revelation Health. If you call our website, you can ask them where the test is if you get lost on that, but worth every penny, I feel, if your insurance doesn’t cover it anyway, because this is a life or death situation.

If you have these estrogen metabolites raising, your chance of cancer and hormone dysregulation go through the roof, so you may be taking hormones and say, hey, I do feel better, but are these metabolites up? Symptoms don’t indicate that. You can develop cancer feeling good, so very, very important test. I think this is the best way to assess your hormones and just in general whether you’re in balance or not, so I hope that helps.

Warren:

That’s one of the most powerful tests you could possibly run, and that was by Genova, you said, Diagnostics?

Dr. Pompa:

Genova does it. There’s another one that’s a little cheaper out there called the Dutch test. I just went over one with a client right before this, but yeah, the Dutch test as well, so check it out. Yep.

Warren:

What about testing for things like—in the Dutch test, that’ll be testosterone, metabolites. It’ll kind of let you know the whole process.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, and then, by the way, toxic testosterone’s another big problem that  the test shows, and that applies to males and females, and something called progesterone steal, where your body—you’re taking progesterone. It will take it, and it will drive it towards these other toxic hormones, so you have to be careful, and this is the most stable. I love this test, because if you took it today, and then you took it five days from now, you’re going to get the same result. If you took it a month from now, you can see it’s the same person. It’s very, very accurate and stable, and we like that when we look at tests for sure.

Warren:

You don’t like things that are variable. What about vitamin D tests? Is that worth running, especially—

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, and it’s a good point you brought that up, because vitamin D technically is a prohormone, and when vitamin D levels go low, inflammation can go up, other problems can happen, and it affects your hormones downstream, so yeah, we do want to know. As vitamin D drops, we can go into more hormone dysregulation, so yeah, with a lack of sunlight, your vitamin D can drop this time of year. Get your vitamin D tested, and no doubt, we want to see it preferably at least above 40 and even above 50 or 60 but at least above 40. When you start dropping into the 20s, you’re starting to get in danger area.

Warren:

What about running—I’m just throwing out some other testing that I know that can indicate why you may not be feeling well and some action items you can take. With vitamin D, you’re going to want a vitamin K as well along with that, don’t you, with the blood work?

Dr. Pompa:

Vitamin K’s a little more expensive, and insurance oftentimes won’t cover it, but yeah, you don’t ever want to just take vitamin D by itself. To your point, it is—by the way, more people are vitamin K deficient than even vitamin D, and they work in synergy. All the fat-soluble vitamins, vitamin D, K, A, E, they all work in synergy, and you always want to take a vitamin D that has all of them, because you can create something called vitamin deficiencies based on taking one hormone like vitamin D, and they attach these fat-soluble vitamins to these same receptors, and now you can actually deplete vitamin K further, which is a bigger problem, because you need vitamin K to absorb calcium, to utilize calcium, to utilize calcium in the right places, so vitamin K is a big issue. You can then deplete vitamin A by taking too much vitamin D and create, again, an increasing cancer. You can even affect hip fractures, etcetera, so you don’t want to take vitamin D by itself. You want a full-spectrum one.

Warren:

All right, well, it looks like we’re moving into our last segment, so we will pick up the testing and what to do right after these announcements. We’ll be right back.

Welcome back, health hunters. Final segment, and we want to just kind of hit on a few more testing, but on that vitamin K, vitamin D thing, the question I had is, doesn’t nature have some foods where vitamin D and vitamin K are combined that—because I know that our listeners always love to hear the food hacks that you can do to replenish your body with the nutrients, because ultimately, when your gut’s working well, and you’re eating the right foods, a lot of the stuff can be normalized.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, and that’s a great point, because that’s my favorite way of getting it. I believe you need sunshine and certain foods. Look, the reason why people aren’t getting sunshine is, number one, they’re afraid. They think it’s just going to cause skin cancer, so they’re slathering themselves with sunscreen, which you’re not getting the vitamin D and other factors that the sun offers. There’s more than just vitamin D. Then, they’re avoiding the sun, period, so you need to get out in the sun. I’m not telling you to get out there and burn yourself, but get out in the sun, even in the winter. Your eyes have receptors for the vitamin D, so you want to get out there a little bit without some sunglasses on. Don’t look directly in the snow. That glare can be dangerous, but you need sun, and people aren’t getting it.

Okay, foods. The problem with the vitamin K deficiency that is so rampant is people are eating grass-fed nothing, so people are eating grain-fed meat. They’re avoiding butter, or they’re eating butter that’s not from cows eating grass. We need grass-fed meat, a hundred percent grass-fed. Cows are meant to eat grass, and therefore, the cow—we can’t take vegetables and take vitamin K1 and convert it to what we need to absorb and utilize calcium, and that is the vitamin K2. The cow does that by eating the grass, so if the cow doesn’t eat grass, you don’t get K2. They take the K1 and in their complicated digestion make K2, and then we eat the butter, drink the milk, or eat the meat, and we get the K2 from the fat. It’s in the fat. That’s what they’re avoiding, too, is the fat.

Warren:

This is a fat-soluble. See it?

Dr. Pompa:

Right. Yeah, so you have to eat the fat. It has to be from grass-fed, and you can see why. There’s vitamin D in there as well, but it’s in the fat, so we’re avoiding the fat, we’re not getting grass-fed, and there lies the epidemic. If you have to supplement, supplement with one that’s balanced, and we carry those on our website. Again, eat the grass-fed please. There’s other factors there as well. Here’s one. Conjugated linoleic acid that you need to burn fat as energy, to lose weight, etcetera, and that’s only in the grass-fed stuff, and people are missing this important fat once again.

Warren:

What happens? I’m just throwing this out there. I am a vegetarian. That’s another topic. It is definitely a choice, and people make that choice all the time. It’s not the choice that we make, although we may diet-vary into a vegetarian diet for a month or two, but they need help, too. Where can they get vitamin K and vitamin D? I chewed on grass as a kid. I don’t know if you did, but I was eating K1, and it wasn’t doing me any good. I remember chewing on grass as a kid, and it was so healthy.

Dr. Pompa:

I did, too.

Warren:

It tasted great, but you’re saying that I wasn’t getting my K2, so to a vegetarian, you’re chewing on grass. That isn’t helping you. What is? What can they do?

Dr. Pompa:

There’s kimchi. That’s something you can do. It’s one of the only vegetables that has K2.

Warren:

The cabbage?

Dr. Pompa:

It’s the Japanese—I guess it’s in the cabbage family. You buy kimchi fermented. Most health food stores have it, and yeah, that’s a good option, so some of those fermented kimchis, and that’s—I don’t like those types of fermented foods, although they’re so good for us. I put them with a little bit of—get the—in Whole Foods, they have the cultured, grass-fed cottage cheese. My daughter taught me how to put my fermented vegetables and kimchi in that with a little bit of olive oil and mix that up with that fermented, good cottage cheese. By the way, you’re getting the K2 in there as well and some of that vitamin D, and then mix that up and eat. Oh, man. A little salt, pepper, olive oil, and even slice a little avocado in it. Boom. There’s all your good fats, and by the way, there’s a hormone helper. We’re in the solutions segment. There’s a hormone helper, because we need all those good fats that I just mentioned, so there you have it.

Warren:

There’s a good super combo for vitamin K and vitamin D, and you’re also going to get some CLA and some other good stuff, especially in that mix. What about—

Dr. Pompa:

I’m just going to say—yeah, just on that topic of fat, I don’t want to leave it too soon, though, because it is one of the solutions. Everyone’s avoiding fats, and we think of saturated fat as cholesterol.

Warren:

Cholesterol. I knew you were going there.

Dr. Pompa:

Bad fats, yeah, but the point is, those really are the fats you need for these hormones. Cholesterol’s at the top of the hormone chain from progesterone into estrogen. Cholesterol’s the king, and yet you’re not eating these grass-fed meats, all the foods I just mentioned that have all the cholesterol and saturated fat that we need to make and be hormonally robust. We’re avoiding those things, so bring them back. Ghee is a clarified butter. You can get the grass-fed ghee now. You want to talk about a super hormone food? I eat ghee almost every day. It’s super great for your testosterone. Oh, it heals your gut. There’s something in it called short chain fatty acids that just heal your gut. I tell you, I use that with so many people, and you want to talk about—they’re like, that helped my gut. It helps your liver, and it helps your hormone, so that might be the most hormone-robust food you can eat right there. The cholesterol, saturated fat, short chain fatty acids. It’s a powerhouse.

Warren:

Man, I forgot about ghee. I have a big, old thing of grass-fed organic ghee sitting upstairs in my closet. I’m going to go have me some of that right after this show.

Dr. Pompa:
Buy the one with the pink sea salt, which is another hormone helper, the darn sea salt. We could do a show on that. You get the one with the pink sea salt in it and the grass-fed, come on, this is—

Warren:

What does sea salt do?

Dr. Pompa:

The salt helps you maintain certain minerals and electrolytes, which, again, part of the hormone chain that we need, and so many are mineral-deficient this time of year. By the way, if you’re vitamin D and K2 deficient, then you’re going to be mineral-deficient, so you get all these great minerals and maintain potassium, which you need for hormone conversion. I’m telling you, if you got one thing from the show, go eat some ghee and some grass-fed this winter. Come on. Forget about it. Worth listening. Share the show with your friends.

Warren:

It is worth it, and the other thing that’s inspirational, you talked about cholesterol and cholesterol sulfate, getting in the sunshine—I don’t know if that gets through your eyes, but in the wintertime—

Dr. Pompa:

Oh, yeah.

Warren:

This is the reason you need to take a family vacation or just a personal vacation. I know, Dan, you like to get in the sun a couple times during the winter—

Dr. Pompa:

At least two times.

Warren:

—because it makes a big difference. Yeah, makes a big difference in your wife’s hormones and in your hormones, and you come back healthy, happy, and more productive because of the conversion of cholesterol, because you’re eating these cholesterol foods and the cholesterol sulfate, and that is a—what is it, a massive prohormone, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, exactly, so we talked about cholesterol, and Warren, great point. The sunshine actually helps you take something called sulfate and attach it to cholesterol. It’s how your hormones work. There’s a senior scientist at MIT that has shown that this is a massive problem with hormones, with the brain, how the brain works, heart disease. You go down the list, but this cholesterol sulfate attachment is vital even in how we make energy. It’s just unbelievable how many people are being affected from this. They’re lacking cholesterol. Then, they’re lacking the sunlight, so listen, take this show, and we gave you some great tests. We gave you just that tip right there alone, and magic will happen. Eat ghee and go outside in the sun. Should we just leave it at that simple, because people will say, okay, I can do that.

Warren:

Yeah, it is that simple, and it will make them detox. A couple inexpensive things, the TCD challenge, getting outside, taking an inexpensive vacation if you don’t have a big vacation budget. It’s not hard to get to the sunshine. Some of these places, you can get great hotels. I recommend opening your windows, just to dilute some of the cleaning agents and molds typically in some of the sunnier places, unless you’re going to a dry environment, but it’s worth taking the trip, and it adds a lot of productivity into your life. Get outside. We love getting into nature. It just makes all the difference in our lives.

Do we want to do—on a show like this, having someone do a heavy metal challenge to see if their body burden’s high. Is that a test—

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, I would say—look, I said that people, those listening with greater health challenges, you need a coach. You can go to our website, and there’s a thing about how to find a coach, and look, that’s probably more for a coach, because even if you did the test, what are you going to do with the result? You need someone who can take it from there, but listen, those who don’t have more serious health challenges, please join us in the TCD challenge. You’re going to learn a lot. It’s a load of fun. More importantly, it’s going to take your health to the next level this year, so I hope you do join us.

Warren:

All right, guys. We love you. We appreciate you. Continue your hunt for health here on Health Hunters Radio. God bless.