Transcript:

Episode 16: The Effects of EMFs

Warren Phillips:

Welcome, health hunters, here today on this beautiful Saturday morning. I’m standing on a mat, Dr. Pompa. Did you know that?

Dr. Pompa:

Grounding mat?

Warren Phillips:

How did you know I was standing on a grounding mat?

Dr. Pompa:

They’re becoming more popular for a reason. People are realizing the effects of the electronic world we live in is having on their bodies.

Warren Phillips:

That’d be a reason. I didn’t think you’d know what kind of mat I was standing on. I thought like a foam mat, or a plastic mat, or a sleeping mat, but no. It is a grounding mat. As I’m doing this show, I’m not feeling much EMF at all. That is our topic today, electromagnetic frequencies. How they are silently disrupting us at the cellular level. It’s one of those causational things. I know Dr. Pompa, you work with a lot of really challenged individuals around the world and professionals. This is a big deal and the science is getting out of control on this. It’s hitting the Facebook social media. There’s a lot of fear surrounding this. Then there’s a lot of conspiracy surrounding this.

As Health Hunters, we dug in. You, in particular, Dr. Pompa, have become quite the expert on EMF as of late. You’ve discovered quite a few problematic and scientific reasons, and literally measuring these things in the home and neutralizing them, and really helping both yourself as you always continue to find the latest and the greatest if there is in health, as we do as Health Hunters. Also, by helping a lot of our clients that are really sensitive to EMFs and what it does at the cellular level. I know there’s a lot of scientists you talk to as well. Let’s dig into this today on Health Hunters. This is an amazing deep topic. We want to clear the air for you guys today on Health Hunters Radio and TV. Dr. Pompa, I’m going to launch you out into this. You are a madman when it comes to EMFs. You’ve got a meter. You have a tin hat; just kidding.

Dr. Pompa:

It would actually help.

Warren Phillips:

Would it really?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, it’s true.

Warren Phillips:

Oh no, the tin hat. The tin hat, or the aluminum foil hat, or it has to be tin?

Dr. Pompa:

Right, yeah, it can be aluminum foil. This topic, it really has interested me in the last year or so because I think we’ve heard more and more about it. You’re right; I deal with a lot of very sensitive people and clients that can’t even stand in front of their refrigerator often times, let alone hold a cell phone, or sit in front of a computer. We know these people are canaries in a coal mine, meaning that they’re overly sensitive if you will. It also brings up a truth. These things are putting out some type of stressor on ourselves that our body’s not responding to in a proper way. It’s not adapting. We know it’s a stressor that a healthy person can most likely adapt to or not over time, which is, by the way, one of the questions I have. Just like microwaves, it took years before microwaves we outlawed, ironically in the very countries they were invented in. We’re still using them. People still use microwave ovens in this country, which there’s major issues with from multiple aspects, but we’re not talking about those microwaves necessarily. We’re talking about microwaves from radio frequencies. These baby monitors, there’s no doubt these things put off such high frequency that they should be outlawed and I believe will. These phones, we all had them in our homes. We had the base phone. Then you had the phones you could just leave around your house as long as the batteries were okay. Then they communicated through radio frequency to the base. Massive amounts of radio frequencies.

Warren Phillips:

Oh geez, I was talkative in high school, Dr. Pompa. I lived on those things.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, right.

Warren Phillips:

Yeah, bad.

Dr. Pompa:

Those things really high in these radio frequencies were actually the most damaging. Then there’s another type of frequency like these magnetic frequencies. I have my fish tank. I would clear this fish tank out. I’m not overly sensitive to these things. I think I’m normal sensitive. Most people don’t realize that they felt weird, or not good, or got a headache, or whatever response. They just don’t put it together that they were in front of these frequencies because you don’t see them. Anyway, I’m doing my fish tank. You change these filters out. It was like every time, my wife would be like, “Every time you do this, it’s like we should just leave the house. You get so irritable.” It took me a while to realize—well, it took me a Gauss meter. See, there’s different meters that measure different frequencies better. In the case of magnetic frequencies, a Gauss meter, $50 meter you can buy online, is the best way to measure these types of frequencies.

Warren Phillips:

We’ll put that in the show notes, so the people transcribing this will throw the Gauss down in there. I got the one for—

Dr. Pompa:

Less EMF—

Warren Phillips:

Mines better than yours though. I’ve got better one.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, I’m sure. Hey, you don’t need the expensive one. Lessemf.com sells several of them.

Warren Phillips:

Oh, nice.

Dr. Pompa:

They also sell the meter that I have to measure the radio frequency.

Warren Phillips:

That’s the fancy meter that you have?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, that’s the one with the little yellow ball on it that’s about $500. I can give you—yeah, Less EMF sells it, but it’s $500. However, you can get it on Joyfay, J-O-Y, we’ll put it in the notes, F-A-Y.com for $350. Anyway, that one does the radio frequencies, which are really the most damaging. Anyways, I get the Gauss meter and I decided to measure it under there. Of course, I’m getting “symptoms” my wife says. Honestly, after I did it and she said something, I realized I do feel really anxious while I’m doing this. Here I thought it was just because you’re dealing with water, you’re dealing with mold, you’re dealing with things. It’s stressful.

Warren Phillips:

You’re dealing with cleaning a fish tank. I don’t think I [00:07:17].

Dr. Pompa:

It’s stressful, man; it’s stressful.

Warren Phillips:

I hate cleaning fish tanks.

Dr. Pompa:

Anyways, yeah, they say fish make you calm. Not cleaning them and cleaning the filters. Anyways, the bottom line is this; a massive amount on this Gauss meter. It’s arguable, but anything under 2 and maybe 2.5 as you measure these is considered okay, safe. This thing pushes over 200, these filters, and I have two of them. Imagine, this thing is enough—when you look in the literature, I’m massively causing cellular damage being in front of these things, especially for 30 minutes or more. Okay, so I measure this and I’m like wow. It put me on a quest to make it safe. I ordered this nickel shielding and I put it in front of them. I’m like it’s hardly doing anything. Only to learn that you have to completely surround it. These darn frequencies will find their way out. You have to encapsulate it on every angle and every end to really make it safe. It’s not easy. Those magnetic frequencies are harder than the radio frequencies. Radio frequencies, if you go to lessemf.com, you’ll see a zillion ways. Even throwing these copper, or steel, or different blankets over things like your computers, underneath your desk, or I should say your monitor.

That brings me to one more personal experience with my son, Dylan, who all of a sudden, is getting severe testicular pain daily. I’m thinking this kid sits in front of a computer all day working on different programs, etc. When I was out last time where he lives I brought my meter. I measured what was coming under his desk where his testicles would be all day long. Sure enough, massive levels of EMF coming off of these monitors. I mean ridiculous amounts. I’m going to be honest; it was hard for me to convince him because kids, they don’t get it. This is their life. They’ve been in front of these things their whole life.

Warren Phillips:

He’s just like, dad, my testes hurt. How is that related to—I wouldn’t believe it either.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, well, when you look at the studies on these frequencies and what it does to our organs, our bodies, our cells, including our testicles, you better stay tuned for the next episode here.

Warren Phillips:

We are back and discussing the topic today on Health Hunters Radio, which is electromagnetic frequencies. You mentioned radio frequency. There’s magnetic frequency. We hear a lot about EMF, so what’s the radio frequency? Is it still considered that Dr. Pompa? That’s one of the questions I had as you were going through that on the first segment.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, they’re all in the category of EMF, electromagnetic frequencies.

Warren Phillips:

It’s all the same?

Dr. Pompa:

There’s different wavelengths. Think of the radio frequencies as a tower connecting to your cell phone, the baby monitor connecting to the base. Your mouse on the computer connecting to your thing. That was one of the things that I discovered in my workspace, making my sleeping space very safe, the places you spend the most time, my office. My phone, it wasn’t a phone connecting to another base, but it had the ability to connect to another base, so guess what? I measure it with this other device, the $350 device. It’s called, by the way, TES, T-E-S, 593. I measure it and that phone was giving off dangerous levels. On this, you want to be under 0.3. I was probably around four, five, six, seven surges. These things kind of surge. As a matter of fact, the more [surgey] it is, up and down, up and down, the more dangerous it is. I was realizing it was the dang phone. I had to go to Best Buy. I picked up a $60 phone that was way more basic and it solved that problem. Then I realized okay, now I’m down to maybe one or two, so I still am not under 0.3. My mouse, my stupid mouse was not—it was—what do you call it? It was a remote mouse. I had to get a—

Warren Phillips:

It was your mouse? Yeah, I’ve got a pretty good mouse.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, and then I did a thing on my computer. I have the new Mac, which has a little square base port. It’s square and maybe an inch high. That really is low EMF surprisingly. I don’t have the big box that sits underneath the desk. Those put way more EMF.

Warren Phillips:

They have bigger fans too, I bet.

Dr. Pompa:

Yes, exactly. The fans typically magnetic. That’s typically more of a magnetic frequency. Anyways, my computer itself was a very safe on, so I got rid of those things. Then there’s an electrical current. Am I there? I heard a weird sound.

Warren Phillips:

That was me. I bumped the mic.

Dr. Pompa:

Oh, okay. Yeah, anyways that’s where the grounding mats come in. As your fingers are on a keyboard, you can get basically an electrical current that can add a harmful frequency radiation into yourself. That’s why you mentioned the grounding mat.

Look, for me to solve my situation with the fish tank, it’s probably the most expensive solution yet. It’s going to cost me—I figured it out. I’m looking at my totals after I measured these things. It’s going to cost me about $125 to fix it; well worth it obviously. Some of these fixes are $20, $30, buy a new phone. It’s not terribly expensive. I think you invest in the equipment to measure because unless you can measure something than you don’t even know if your solution’s working. Just like I put the nickel shielding. I would have thought okay, that did it. My gosh, it was right in front of there. It must be pushing that in another direction; it wasn’t. It was going right around it. You have to be able to see if these solutions work, so invest in the equipment to measure. I think it’s worth it. A $50 Gauss meter, a $350 radio frequency meter. There’s probably less expensive radio frequency meters. This one is no doubt the best one out there.

Warren Phillips:

Your buddy Joe loves that one, right?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, Joe Mercola got that one after I looked into it. I was trying to find a cheaper one. I decided to just get that one myself actually. Anyways, these solutions really aren’t that expensive to do, but you need the meters to figure out where.

Then there’s one more. It’s called dirty electricity. There’s a book written about dirty electricity. The Outlets, if you put these things, the Gauss meter or the frequency, near your outlets, you’ll be like oh that’s nothing. There’s a surge that comes through these things that is called dirty electricity. There’s something called a Greenwave. These things run, you can get them about $25. I know Walmart actually has them now. I’ve found them on Amazon at one place for $25. Typically, you need—I don’t know, I think I ordered nine of them, but cleaned up my office, cleaned up my bedroom. You plug these things in your outlets. Then you can plug into those and it takes out your dirty electricity.

I gave you a lot of solutions, but I promise you this one; we don’t have people convinced to do it. I promise you that. Because it’s unseen; if we could see these things coming out of our outlets, everyone would be running to Walmart to buy these things. People would be investing in everything I said, but we don’t see it. By the way, most of you think you don’t feel it, but just because you don’t feel it, or think you don’t feel it, that doesn’t mean it’s not affecting your health. I get it. I was one of those people until I dove a little bit more into the literature.

Look, it’s strong. The literature is strong of what it’s doing. The problem is we’re in one of the largest human experiments. GMOs is another. Vaccines is another. We have a lot of human experiments. This is definitely in that top three going on right now. This generation, my children, your children, many people listening to this’s children, here is the experimental group. We have just been exposed to these things. This generation is living in it. How is the body adapting? Okay, I was researching brain tumors. I got a lot of conflicting information as a health hunter. I was saying okay, if these phones are so bad, then we should see this massive rise in brain tumors. Malignant ones, yes; regular tumors, no. There could be other factors for the massive rise in malignant. Again, I think it’s so early. I talked to a gentleman named Martin Pall who you know. He spoke of—

Warren Phillips:

Yeah, I was just wondering if you were going to bring him up because this guy’s off the charts brilliant.

Dr. Pompa:

He is. He’s such an amazing guy; brilliant. When I spoke to him, I had trouble getting off the phone as I was arriving to my destination because his concern over this generation. He believes that the bottom is going to fall out. He says, “Dr. Pompa, you have to understand how these types of tumors work. How these cancer cells work. It’s an exposure over periods of time. Then it just happens.” He says, “We’re about to see an explosion in these types of cancers and what’s going on.” Look, I know this from my own sake, everybody’s sick. My wife and I were just eating somewhere. We met everybody that’s around us typically. It’s always a health story about what’s going on. It’s become the new normal: being sick, thyroid conditions. Toxins, yes, but how much of this EMF is playing a role? Let’s talk more about it because I believe it’s bigger than we think.

Warren Phillips:

Absolutely, Dr. Pompa. I have a little something I want to read that’s really scary. We’ll be right back.

Dr. Pompa, I’m sure concerned at EMFs. It’s like our last topic last week, GMOs. You don’t really see the gylphosates in the soy, in the corn, but it’s a massive human experiment. I would liken EMF to that. As they’re putting in smart meters in your homes, and things that are putting off massive EMF, cancer rates, with all our technological advances—I’m just trying to put this into perspective—are still going through the roof. People are getting sicker and sicker, yet we’re supposedly the most technologically advanced country in the world, and we’re one of the sickest countries in the world. We have the best health care system, yet we’re one of the sickest countries in the world. A lot of this is just we’re carnage as we grow and move.

What I wanted to read and really shock the audience with is, go on your iPhone because many of you do. Go into your general. Then go to your about. Underneath your settings: general, about. Dr. Pompa, you’re following me on this, right? That’s an inside joke because we always have to do technology together. Then you go to legal. Then there it is: RF exposure right at the bottom. It’s pretty much saying we tested this phone and it meets radio frequency exposure limits. “Although this device has been tested to determine SAR in each band of operation, not all bands are available in all areas. Bands are dependent on your service provider’s wireless and roaming networks.”

Let me see if it’s in here on this one. It’s telling you to move it away from your head to decrease your limits, all this. You sign off on this when you subscribe in this. When you update the phone, it makes you accept their legal disclosure. It says we’re not responsible for the brain cancer this may cause, so they know that this thing is going to cause this. They’re already clearing themselves. You’re like, look, we told you. We even did the legal notice. We put the RF exposure right on your phone, it has RF exposure. It’s letting you know, hey we’ve done everything we can to say this. We told you to use speakerphone. Go get cancer and die now, thank you very much. If they’re doing and making us sign off legally, I hope that brings some credibility to the silent dangers of EMF.

Dr. Pompa:

You brought up another simple solution. With the meter, with the $350 meter, you can put it next to your phone. You’re like that’s not too bad. Then have your friend text you. You go voom and you watch it just go right up the scale. That’s going right into your head. The moment your phone is basically attaching to that tower or trying to, threw the roof. The less bars you have, the more it’s trying, the higher the exposure. You have to understand how that’s working. Warren, we run around on speaker phone because distance is your friend. A foot away from you is far less than right up on your ear. Distance is your friend.

Another story about that. When we moved into this house, I had my desk that I’m sitting at right now currently over on that wall. You can see me right now, right folks, pointing to that wall about 12 feet across the room. Anyways, it was. I was sitting on that wall. I was getting headaches. I don’t get headaches. They were these dull headaches, but I never started the day, it was towards the end of the day headaches. Of course, you think it’s a lot of different things. After a couple of weeks of this—I can’t remember what made me click—I know. I was outside and I saw on that wall. I was walking around and I said, “Oh, that’s where my electric comes in.” Bam, it hit. Son of a gun, I need to measure that. That’s how I ended up buying my darn Gauss meter. I measured it and it was like 70. It was surging: somethings 30, sometimes 50,70. Matter of fact, it depended on if my washer and dryer was on, which was pulling more electricity. I realized okay, this is the problem. I didn’t know how to shield it, nor did I care to even do that expense. I just moved my desk on to the other side of the room. Solved my problem, I’m below 0.1, so 70 to 0.1 with a 10-foot difference, maybe 12. That’s what distance does. That cost me nothing.

Again, another reason to have a meter. By the way, all these smart meters. These things are putting off massive, massive, massive radio frequency exposure. People get sick; plants die around these things. That’s how bad they are. Where is your bed? Where is your head sleeping? Measure it, that’s the point. Where are you sitting all day? Measure it, that’s the point.

Listen, you add this—listen, the cells do not know the difference: a physical, chemical, emotional stress, and I’ll add one more, EMF stress. Doesn’t know the difference. You might as well be eating toxins. It’s creating a cellular stress that your body has to adapt to. When will your cells run out of adaptation ability? Add another layer of emotional stress. I call it your—imagine we all have a bucket, genetically different sized buckets, all of us. Call it your stress bucket. You fill it with emotional stress. You fill it with toxic stress from the time you’re a baby. You fill it with all of this. Now, we’re filling it with electromagnetic stress. When and where is yours overflowing? If you’re on a medication, yours is overflowing. If you’re trying all these different supplements and you’re still not feeling well, if you’re not sleeping, if you have anxiety, if your hormones are dysregulated, your stress bucket is overflowing.

Understand that the only way to feel better is empty the stinking bucket.

Emptying EMFs, these stressors, it’s so easy, but yet we’re not thinking of it as a danger of filling our buckets. The more you empty that bucket, the more stressors you’ll be able to take on. Now, all of a sudden, your crazy mother-in-law is not freaking you out. You’re not ruining your day because you’re going eh. You’re reacting to it. You’re dealing with it better, normal. The chemical stress that normally would send you surging. Now, you’re reacting in a better way to it. You have to empty your stress buckets. That’s really how you get well. You have to go upstream and eliminate the causes of cellular dysfunction. No doubt, you’ll express different health. Instead, we look for the magic pill, powder, potion, lotion, whatever it is. What I’m telling you is if you truly want to walk in a state of health, defy the odds, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, whatever it is, look upstream, remove these causes. I hope I’m impacting you to look at these electromagnetic frequencies and get them the heck out of your life. Invest in two stinking meters and watch what happens to your life. I’m telling you, you will sleep better first off. You’ll recover better. You’ll feel better, but you have to be willing to do this in your life. It’s not everything, but it’s part of the stress bucket. I hope that makes sense to you all.

Warren Phillips:

It makes sense to me. I’m more fired up. I think you said it, Dan. To get the meters, invest in that. Then check your dirty electricity. Those are cheap. You can get those from Walmart you said to fix those, a little adapter. Then after you put the adapter to fix the dirty electricity, get the right—because it uses up the whole wall plug, then you put in a low EMF type which aren’t expensive. What are those?

Dr. Pompa:

The Greenwaves?

Warren Phillips:

Dirty electricity, it takes up all your plugs, so then you have to put a—what are those called? The sticks?

Dr. Pompa:

You mean the things you plug the other things into like multi plugs?

Warren Phillips:

Yeah, come on people. I can’t believe it’s escaping us right now. Plug bars, I don’t know. We’ll think of it here in a minute. You start in your bedroom where you spend seven to nine hours in there. Then obviously your children are super affected by this stuff, so check their rooms. A few little cleanups, you might have to put in some dirty electricity. There’s lots of things you can do. Your kids getting exposed with their iPads. You can get little anti-EMF blankets. Our children use those. This morning, true story, my daughter was watching something on her iPad. I wasn’t feeling well, Rebecca is not feeling well. We don’t let our kids watch a lot of TV or their iPads, but we put them on their iPad. I’m like, “Honey, you can’t do that.” We couldn’t find her EMF shield blanket. You know what she did? She found her own solution. She put it about six feet away, propped it up on a box. “How’s this, Daddy?” A six-year-old; we’re training them in a way so that they can be the next generation. We’ll be right back with it.

Dr. Pompa:

Wait until this last segment. We’ve got something scary as well.

Warren Phillips:

I’m not going to lie, Dr. Pompa, I’m going to tell you the truth. The truth is I was dancing like a tribal guy because of that music. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing, but you can let us know down in the show notes if you ever do the tribal dance to our little intros and extras because I sure did.

Before we go to the next scary topic, I just want to say there’s a lot of questions we’re going to get: can we put something on the back of our phone that eliminates that? I know Dr. Pompa has looked into it extensively. Those little buttons, it’s supposed to change the frequency up, so that’s healthy or make it harmonic. Anytime I ask someone is there science behind it, they say I muscle tested them. I can show you that they’re stronger when they put this on, so it’s all kinesiology, which really has some value for sure, but there’s a lot of inconsistency there. It’s not a consistent way to—it’s not a scientific method if you will. Depending on who’s doing it—there’s so many things that can affect that, so it’s multivariant.  I’m not going to put my faith in that. I use what’s called a Defender Shield, which has a true EMF blocker on the front of the phone. It’s not perfect. There’s another one out there, another version that pushes a lot of it out the back of the phone, so when you’re on it—I just bought the one, I think Ben Greenfield uses it. Joe just sticks his phone in a Faraday cage bag and only uses it on speaker on a stick.

Dr. Pompa:

It’s true.

Warren Phillips:

If you ever talking to Joe, if you ever get a chance to talk to him—Dan talks to him all the time and I talk to him every once in a while. He’s usually grounding, and walking, and has his little selfie stick where he’s yelling at his phone talking to us. It’s really cool. The thing is, that’s another thing. These little buttons, do they or do they not work? I’m not going to say that they don’t, but I can’t tell you if they do work. I know that if you buy the Defender Shield and some of the other ones that actually have the EMF blocker—you put that on.

Let me give you the negatives with that. Try to get ones that are made of natural materials because I’ve been off-gassing mine outside in the hot mountain sun that is why impactful to off-gas these things. The thing still smells like it can straight from a Chinese factory where it was built. It’s really toxic. I can’t even use the thing because I’m using it, it makes me sick. I don’t want to give you a toxic solution. Make sure you get one, and if you do get it, make sure you off-gas it in the sun. Don’t leave it in the rain, but off-gas it in the sun. Let’s move on Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, I want to move on to light. Let me say one thing on that. This is why you need a device to test.

Warren Phillips:

You need a meter.

Dr. Pompa:

Let’s say you put it in a case and it has the anti-EMF on the front and the back. Now, you know it’s shooting out the other side like I was explaining. You have to be able to measure these things before we say that things work. Because of my device that measured, I went with one that just blocks it on the back where my hand is because I realized that’s the problem. People were getting this arthritic hand pain.

Warren Phillips:

Mine’s horrible, Dan.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, it makes it worse. When I measured that, then I realized that’s really the bigger issue. I would it rather come out the top because I’m on speakerphone than into my hand. Now, I’ve taken off—I just have the back blocked.

Warren Phillips:

What’s the one you’re using?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, it’s called Bloc Sock, B-L-O-C-S-O-C-K, Lite, L-I-T-E because there’s different ones. You can block it in different ways with this. You can cut it. Now, I’m going to be honest here. My son, who I was speaking earlier, has my device because he’s fixing his thing. I had these on the way and then I gave it to him. Stay tuned; I’ll tell you how it’s working. It does block. It gives you the amount that it blocks. I’m trying to block my hand, so I’m sure it’s working to some degree. I’m still getting EMF if I put this thing close to me, but at least I’m blocking it in my hand.

Warren Phillips:

I’ve got massive joint pain when I talk on the phone; massive.

Dr. Pompa:

Anyways, this is a different way of doing it. Anyways, the bottom line is you have to be able to measure. What about light? I’m going to tell you right up front, I still am in the investigative stage here. No doubt, there’s Harvard studies now that are showing our exposure to basically non-full spectrum light like the sun gives off, it is a problem. When you’re exposing yourself to these spectrums of light that are more blue light for an example, you will deplete melatonin and not go into deep sleep. People looking at your phones before bed, screens, those are real high in blue light. Or you’re in your bathroom and now they have all the halogen lights and fluorescents. These are frequencies that do the same. They’re very high in blue light and you’re depleting your melatonin. Then you go to bed and you’re not getting your deep restive Delta sleep that you get mostly right when you fall asleep. You skip over that phase. You’re wondering why you slept eight or nine hours and you’re still tired.

We know, no doubt, the science shows that that’s a factor. What about during the day being under these lights all day? I believe that they’re no doubt affecting us. One of the counter-steps is get outside, walk around in your bare feet called grounding. We talked a little bit about it. Getting under the sunlight, exposing your skin to sun. Don’t get sunburned. We’re lacking real sun, full-spectrum light that we’re learning every year has so much to do with aspects of our health that we had no idea. It’s not just about vitamin D, getting sun. We’ve been running from the sun, putting ourselves under these false lights. Now, we’re realizing that we’re creating great harm at the cellular level that we never thought. The science is expanding. I’m in an investigative state. I’m a health hunter in this area right now. I’m not certain of how dangerous it is. I know it affects sleep. I know it affects us.

There’s a guy that I interviewed on Cell TV named Jack Kruse with a K. You can Google him and find all kinds of things. I did a great interview with him. He believes that this light issue is more important than food. Now, I don’t agree with Jack on that. I think he’s a bright man. I’m not saying anything negative. I think Jack’s done an amazing job at exposing this new problem, but I don’t know. Is it more important than food or not? Okay, I’m going to side on the side of I don’t think; however, it is important. I have gone and went back to these incandescent lights. This was the old days, when you have a device—and these devices are more expensive, so I’m not recommending you buy one of these. If you have one—Joe Mercola does—you can look in the wavelength spectrum of an incandescent bulb versus a halogen. The difference is stark. You can see these blue light imbalances. You go okay, no doubt there’s a difference. Incandescent, the old bulbs are so—they don’t last as long, but they are so much more balanced, very close to more like sunlight. These things are hard to find. You can order them online. We’ll put this in the show notes, Lighting Science. Light and science? My internets off so now we’ll have to pull that up. I don’t want to screw it up. I’m a dyslexic you know.

Warren Phillips:

I’ll do it. I have my phone. I’ll plug it in.

Dr. Pompa:

Alright, thank you.

Warren Phillips:

I’m getting EMF exposure on this.

Dr. Pompa:

Lighting Science. Anyways, the bottom line is that we can buy these at this bulb—now, these go beyond even incandescent. These lights that you buy for maybe $20 a bulb, $24, you want to use these in your bedroom, maybe your bath, anyplace you do before bed. They even have day bulbs that help your cells. They give off more of a certain spectrum. The point is this, you replace—I think I replaced six bulbs. I went to Walmart actually and found an old incandescent bulb. Home Depot doesn’t sell them anymore. They’re more of the real LEDs. The softer lights are better if you’re buying bulbs.

The bottom line though is that this imbalance of these infrequencies, no doubt. If you go to Cell TV at drpompa.com, watch my interview with Jack Kruse. The world light is in the title. You’ll see a whole argument of what scientifically this is doing to us. Alright, add this to EMF. Add this to the toxins that we’ve talked about in this show so much. You see what we’re dealing with today and you wonder why the explosion of unexplainable illnesses. People medicating down depression. All of this falls into what we’re talking about. Chronic pain disorders because of driving inflammation. This is no doubt, there’s a change in our environment. When we look at our outside environment, our air, it’s cleaner than ever, but it’s these hidden toxic exposures that we’re exposing as health hunters that no doubt, are affecting you unknowingly. Warren, what was it? Was I right?

Warren Phillips:

It was Lighting Science. Yep, just Lighting Science and it’s lsgc.com. They sell these things on Home Depot, Amazon. Man, they’re catching on. We’ll see you next week.

Dr. Pompa:

Good to hear actually.

Warren Phillips:

Take care guys. Have a great evening.