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Episode 4: Ketosis for Health, Mind and Body

Dr. Pompa:

What are we hunting today, Warren?

Warren:

Welcome to Health Hunters today. Thanks for asking, Dr. Pompa. It’s going to be a very good show. The cool thing is is the last four shows we’ve done we haven’t really talked about a supplement, a pill, a potion, or a powder. We’ve been talking about the ancient healing strategies that have been developed within our genetic code to heal our bodies, to bring about human health and performance, and literally transform your life. We laid those out thick to our listening audience, and that’s been really powerful for me. I know I learned a ton. I know our listeners have learned a ton.

Now we’re going to go diving deep into one of the most controversial and most powerful topics, ketosis, and how it helps your health, your performance, and your brain function along with so many other things, and how this ancient healing strategy that we talked about that happened naturally in the feast-famine cycles that—the previous shows that our listeners will go listen to. Then we’re going to dive deep into that topic of the ketogenic diet and how it can help you not only heal, but your body can help it—we don’t heal anything. Your body heals itself. How it can help you in performance and memory and so many other ways, and how this individual tool can really unlock major power in your life, a great Health Hunter topic. Dr. Pompa, let’s take it away with a ketogenic diet today.

Dr. Pompa:

I just spent time with a group of doctors, right?

Warren:

Health hunters.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. They just pounded me about ketosis, right? I mean, no doubt they had a lot of questions about cellular healing, cellular detox but ketosis. Even my cousin, Jacob, who came up from San Francisco to be with us for one of the evenings is in ketosis because of a conversation I had with him a couple months ago. He finally dove in, right, so literally spent hours talking about this subject. Now, we spoke on one of the past shows about diet variation, so I want to put ketosis in light of I am not one of those that thinks that everybody should be in ketosis all the time.

Warren:

Yeah, you are.

Dr. Pompa:

No, I’m not.

Warren:

I’m teasing you.

Dr. Pompa:

Many people believe that, okay, they find ketosis because it works so well, and they’re just now always in ketosis. I am not one of those. I believe ancient cultures after seeing it for myself. They move in and out of ketotic states for various reasons: environmental stressors, pressures, lack of food, drought, whatever it is. They move in and out of different diets, forced in and out. I think in that episode too I even talked about why society today is not being forced in and out of different diets and why it could be a tragedy for our health.

Anyways, no doubt about it, ketosis is an ancient diet. It’s a state of our bodies that we’re meant to go through in times of food changes, different foods. We can look at every culture, and they were forced into times of ketosis. It’s no doubt a survival mechanism. It’s no doubt something that transforms our DNA and has all these amazing healing qualities. Now, I’m going to caution right up front, Warren, because I’m not one of those who say we should always be in ketosis. Right now, ketosis is…

Warren:

You’re still one of those.

Dr. Pompa:

I am one of those.

Warren:

Not one of those that want to be in ketosis all the time, but you’re one of those. That’s my point.

Dr. Pompa:

I am. No doubt.

Warren:

You’re one of those guys.

Dr. Pompa:

I am one of those guys. Look, I’m going to make a prediction that I made in the seminar. That I believe this fad, the popularity of ketosis, has a shelf life about five to eight years right now.

Warren:

All the products surrounding it.

Dr. Pompa:

All the products surrounding it.

Warren:

It’s getting out of control in multi-levels and all kinds of things.

Dr. Pompa:

Every day.

Warren:

Yeah. It’s not cool.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Again, I use ketosis. I use it as a tool with clients. A lot of doctors use it with their patients and clients.

Warren:

It doesn’t need to be a fad where everybody’s just doing it because it’s in vogue and the cool thing to do. It’s part of our natural system. We need to go back to the—listen to the earlier shows where it’s just part of our natural in and out cycle. Tragically, I believe some of the health conditions we may be facing today is because the lack of people dropping into ketosis every once in a while.

I’m going to go a little off topic. What’s that movie? First Do No Harm, great movie for health hunters to watch where the young child was having seizures, and they were just putting him from drug, to drug, to drug. The mom finally stopped it, and said stop after they poured—I remember they were pouring this drug into a Styrofoam cup, and it dissolved away. This toxic poison they were injecting in her son. The punchline was…

Dr. Pompa:

She had enough at that point.

Warren:

Yeah. She had enough, and they put him in the ketogenic diet, normal kid.

Dr. Pompa:

Lorenzo’s Oil was another one,  the ketosis and how—look, since the 1900s, ketosis was not just used for seizures. They were using it for multiple different brain conditions, which is part of our topic today. With the advent of new drugs like Neurotin and other brain drugs, that they thought why would we subject people to this horrific diet when we have all these new medicines and medications and breakthroughs? Here we are now. It turned around, and it lost complete popularity through most of those years in between. Now it’s back in vogue.

My prediction is it’s going to come and go. One of the reasons is because, as people stay in a state of ketosis, some of the effectiveness loses its way. As far as their ability to lose weight, the body can think it’s starving, and it slowed down weight loss, etc. People will say it didn’t work for me, etc., but when used properly in what we call diet variation, feast-famine cycles, even true cellular detox because a lot of people can’t even get into ketosis because of toxic issues, which we can talk a little bit about today as well—but Warren, with that said, let’s review. I’m sure people haven’t listened to past shows. They had no clue of what even the word ketosis means. Why don’t you ask some questions as if you were one of those people? Then we’ll fast forward into some cool stuff about ketosis.

Warren:

The first question I’m going to have is, the ketosis, is it that Paleo diet? Is that that diet where you only eat nuts and seeds? Is it safe?

Dr. Pompa:

Is it a Paleo diet? Look, Atkins I think led the way here, but Atkins really didn’t really talk a lot about high protein. They talked about cutting carbohydrates down and forcing your cells to use fat as energy. By the way, folks, that’s what ketosis is. Your cells can use fat or sugar for energy. When you go into a state of ketosis, you’re decreasing your sugar intake, carbohydrate intake, if you will, down so much that it forces the cell just to use fat. Then when it burns fat, it makes ketones, and the brain uses ketones. Okay. That’s just a brief understanding of what we’re talking about.

Atkins didn’t talk a lot about the fact that protein—because many people would cut carbohydrates. They would lose weight. Things would be going good. Then replacing carbohydrates, they replaced with some fat, but they replaced with a lot of bad fats. They replaced it with high protein, which turns into glucose, sugar. It’s called gluconeogenesis, so we’ve learned that that’s not good either.

Is it a Paleo diet? No. Is it Atkins diet? No. Ketosis done right is actually a high-fat, low- to moderate-protein, low-carb diet. That’s what it is.

Warren:

I just read this on Facebook. Is ketosis safe, and does it have side effects? That’s another fear that people have. I’m not going to go into ketosis. That’s a diabetic disease. That’s the only place I’ve heard of that, if I’m a listener.

Dr. Pompa:

When diabetes, when their beta cells get completely destroyed—that’s the cells in the pancreas that make insulin. When they get destroyed, you’re not making insulin, and then you go into diabetic ketosis. That’s not good, but that’s a condition. That’s not what we’re talking about here today. What we’re talking about here today is nutritional ketosis, and we’ll talk more about it when we come back.

Warren:

Yeah. The only side effects of that is things like weight loss.

Warren:

All right, we’re back. Thanks, sponsors. Thanks, Dr. Pompa, for being here, and thank you, health hunters, for tuning in with us today. We’re back on this topic of the ketogenic diet. Is it a fad diet? Is it safe? Does it help me lose weight? What the heck is this stuff? Let’s keep rocking with this, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Is it safe? We left there, and we talked about diabetic ketosis, which when you look at how we know you’re in ketosis, the most accurate way is measuring these ketones in your blood. That’s called beta hydroxybutyrate is the one we’re actually measuring. Someone in diabetic ketosis might be as high as 50, even higher ketones in their blood. I would say you could start to see diabetic ketosis over 15, even 20. Nutritional ketosis is .5 to, say, eight in your blood, and typically, you won’t even see numbers above five, six, seven, eight unless you’re in a fasting state, which is completely normal.

Yeah. That’s safe. Ketosis is extremely safe and effective because we’re meant to do it as humans. As a matter of fact, we know now that being in ketosis turns off all these bad genes we turn on, so cultures that would go through times of starvation or times of food shifts, seasonally, whatever it was, cleaned up their DNA. The ketones turn off bad genes. They downregulate inflammation. All these amazing things happen when we’re in states of ketosis. Is it safe? Maybe we should sift over to effectiveness because, wow, amazing things do happen, and more modern studies are actually showing that, Warren.

Warren:

The side effects are actually health, such as brain function, weight loss. No negative side effects unless you have some sort of diabetic issue, which you would already know about. You would go to your specialist and get the right testing for that. Do we want to get into testing right now? Let me just throw that off a little bit later.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Yeah.

Warren:

Yeah. If I was going to do the ketogenic diet, here’s the question. Do I need a coach? I don’t know what to do. I mean, I can go out there. I’m listening to your podcasts. We’re on Health Hunters. You’re exposing us to this health hunter truth, but I don’t want to run out there and just buy the next book and try to do it.

Is it easy to do on my own? Do I need to get a coach? How long will it take me to do this? Can I do it? Am I physically capable of doing something like this? I get sugar cravings all the time. I don’t know what to eat. What do I eat, Dr. Pompa? This is an issue for some people.

Dr. Pompa:

If you’re a healthy person, you want to do ketosis to be healthier. I don’t think you need a coach. I think we can explain it today. I think if you have a condition, a disease, etc., then having a coach is going to benefit you. It’s one of the reasons we train doctors around the country, right, Warren?

Warren:

Right. Mm-hmm.

Dr. Pompa:

Here’s why. Ketosis alone, for a lot of different conditions, isn’t the magic. We know now that you have to reduce the glucose. If glucose isn’t reducing, then that can—you’re not going to get the benefits of ketones. There’s a lot of things you need to do with ketosis. I mentioned at the top of the show that, look, we have toxic issues. Neurotoxins can actually even interfere with people getting into ketosis, but it can also keep people from benefiting from the ketones. There’s some factors there if you have a condition, so you may need a coach.

Yeah. No. I mean, it’s pretty easy to do otherwise. I mean, to make it very simple, for the average person, if you decrease your net carbohydrates, and I’ll explain that in a minute, under 50 grams a day, which you can google anything—how many carbohydrates are in a cup of broccoli? How many carbohydrates are in this bagel? How many carbohydrates are in whatever you’re eating? At the end of the day, don’t go over 50, and keep your protein very moderate.

If you weigh 150 pounds, keep your protein about half of your body weight, pretty safe. I mean, if you’re obese, then you have to consider lean body weight, right? What would you be? Consider half of your body weight at your perfect weight, and then you’re going to be a good average of your amount of protein you need in a day.

Warren:

What about the carbs? What about the carbs for body weight and male-female sort of thing?

Dr. Pompa:

I mean, that’s what I’m saying. It’s pretty much the same. I mean, you have to drop it under 50 net carbs. When I say net, I mean, when you google, let’s say you google how many carbohydrates are in a cup of broccoli. You may see eight grams of carbohydrates, yeah, but six of the eight are from fiber. You minus the six, you’re left with two. You can do that with anything. Minus the fiber grams, that’s your net carbs. Bring your net carbs under 50. You’re going to pretty much go into ketosis, but we want to keep our protein moderate, and that’s why about half your lean body weight is a pretty good number to stay at.

Warren:

I’m a 175-pound male. I’m probably about 11% body fat right now. You’re probably pretty mad at me about that, Dr. Pompa, but I’m in more of a feasting, super healthy. Had a lot of energy but I’m not at my leanest right now. When I’m at my leanest, I’m 165 pound. I’m shredded up at about 5% body fat. I would eat about 80 grams of protein a day?

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, 80 grams.

Warren:

Then so my net carb side would be under 50, doing the calculation minus the fiber, getting the total net carb. The sugar carbs, really, right, the natural sugars that are in broccoli. Then, if I’m a woman and say I’m a—at lean, I’m 90 pounds. I would be doing about 45 grams of protein and still getting under that 50 net carb, or should it be a little less, like 40, if I’m a 90-pound lean woman?

Dr. Pompa:
I think there’s a range there, right? On the days you exercise and are more active, of course, you could utilize more protein, so we could only just give that as an average. If you’re close to that on either side, I think you’re going to do pretty well. If you’re active and lifting and doing all kinds of activities, you can get away with more as you’ll need more.

Look, I want to—before we leave this topic of testing, I can—the best I said was blood, and it is. A common mistake is urine testing. People will test their urine. Back when Atkins and people did this, they didn’t have the blood test as simple as we have it today, so they were testing the urine. Here’s the problem. When you’re first going into ketosis, you’ll see ketones in your urine. Actually, when you start actually utilizing the ketones in what we call fat-adapted, which we need to talk about, then you actually see the ketones go away, so it becomes very confusing to people. However, when you’re looking at blood, you won’t see ketones in the beginning. Then it takes a while to get above that .5 where we know you’re in nutritional ketosis.

Precision Xtra, $20 meter online, Amazon, Precision Xtra, now, you have to buy the right strips for it, which are about three or four bucks a strip, a little expensive. You don’t need to test a lot, just every once in a while. Listen, it is different for everybody. Some of you may be able to be in at 80 grams of carbs a day. Some of you may have to go down to 20. The point is is there is some—a reason to test periodically to see, number one, when you are in ketosis aka fat-adapted. Meaning you’re now utilizing your fat in ketones, which takes about three to four weeks for most people. I would say two to four weeks. Some people will adapt quicker than others. Looking at that, so if you get your carbs under 50, the first 2 weeks you’re not going to see .5 ketones. It’s going to take a couple weeks to do that, so testing would be of use.

Warren:

I love that, Dr. Pompa. When we come back after some awesome announcements from our sponsors, I want to dig into that testing a little bit more. When’s the best time—you’ve been doing that for years. Let’s check out when we actually should do that bloodwork, I mean, that blood testing with the Precision Xtra meter. We’ll be right ack.

 

Warren:

All right, we are doing some ketone testing, Dr. Pompa, on this show. Like we were discussing, there’s a—that was a really great learning for me because I didn’t even think about that. I know about ketones in the urine. I’ve done that when I’ve gotten physicals and exams, and you don’t usually want to see those. When you’re fat-adapted, those ketones go away, and then they shift over into your blood. I want you to explain that a little more clearly, and then just talk about the whole testing routine. What our health hunters will see over time as they test themselves in a normal scenario. I know it varies quite dramatically depending on the individual, whether they got in or not and all those things. If you’re looking at the perfect world, where would they see that shift? When’s the best time to do that testing, whether it’s a morning ketone test, before bed, some of those details for our listener.

Dr. Pompa:

I think morning is a great time because you’re doing—you’re not doing other activities. Other activities can throw off ketones. Working out, you can—depending on what type of workout you’re doing, it could drop your ketones or raise them, so we don’t’ want that. First thing in the morning, typically, it should be your lowest reading. If you’re above .5 in the morning, then you’re in, right? There could be times when you’re not. Maybe you’re .3 in the morning, and by the afternoon, you’re in. Typically, you start to burn more fat and utilize the ketones more later. Okay. Morning is best.

Look, when you’re going, you might say, well, first week and I see my ketones are above .5, but I still don’t feel great. You do. You go through this—you’re lacking. Your brain is lacking glucose because you’re dropping your blood sugar. We see a drop in blood glucose where I always get emails. Is it okay that my glucose is 55? Should I be worried? I get those emails all the time. I say, well, no. Not if your ketones are rising.

What we expect to see is drop in glucose and ketones rising to make up for the glucose. However, you’re still going I feel like crap. I can’t think. I feel tired. Then what happens is we start to see that you start to come alive, maybe about two to three weeks. Now, you’re actually utilizing the ketones. Just because you see the ketones in your blood doesn’t mean your brain is yet officially or efficiently using the ketones, and that happens around two to four weeks on average. Now you’re adapted.

Warren:

That’s when you become the memory man, right, or about two to four weeks?

Dr. Pompa:

Yes. Yeah, literally. Yeah. No. Your brain turns on, man. I mean, it turns on.

Warren:

Like 75% increase.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah.

Warren:

There’s been times where I—when I’ve been in ketosis and I was—I remembered whole conversations. I’d look at my staff or our team, and I’d be like I don’t even know how I remembered that. This is crazy. The amount of memory is just—it’s crazy. I know exactly what you’re saying. When your brain is chewing on those ketones, why is your memory so ignited at that place? I know it’s a little off topic right now because we’re still on the testing.

Dr. Pompa:

No. It’s a good topic. Yeah. I think they got the testing thing, but look, I think that’s a great question actually. We know that these ketones can stop seizures. We know that they can have this massive anti-inflammatory effect in the brain.

Simply put, there’s two reasons. Number one, the brain is just—it loves ketones. It’s a very clean burning fuel that doesn’t drive a lot of oxidation and inflammation in the brain.  Imagine this, if you burn wood in your fireplace, you better have the damper open. Otherwise your house will fill with smoke. Obviously, you potentially die. Okay. Think of that as your cell, your home being a cell, so we want to make sure that those dampers are open. A lot of people with very inflamed cells can’t get rid of the very energy their body’s making, the smoke that…

Warren:

No damper, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:

There’s no damper, right. Okay. Now imagine natural gas on your stove. You don’t have a damper. You don’t need it because it burns so clean, unlike the wood. Glucose burns like wood. You better have pretty good functioning dampers and cells. Ketones burn like natural gas. The first reason the brain loves them, it downregulates inflammation just how clean it burns. It doesn’t make a lot of oxidative stress, so we can downregulate cellular inflammation. The brain works better.

The second reason, when we look at many conditions that really have a problem with glucose uptake in the brain—see, your brain needs a lot of glucose to burn for energy to work. It uses so much energy. It’s unbelievable. Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, MS, Huntington’s, ALS, I can keep going down the list of all these different diseases, autism, brain injuries, even type 1, type 2 diabetes. All of these are conditions that we know the brain lacks glucose. Short-term memory loss, your brain is lacking glucose. What’s happening?

Okay. Think of type 2 diabetes where the—you have plenty of insulin, but the problem is is the insulin is not able to get the glucose in the cell because the cells are not hearing the insulin very well. Okay. That’s type 2 diabetes. That’s what’s happening in the brains. The cells aren’t able to utilize the glucose. You need more and more insulin in your brain to try to get the glucose in the cell, but you’re still lacking. Therefore, your memory starts going. Your brain’s not working. You feel like in a fog all the time.

Okay. Ketones bypass that mechanism. Ketones don’t need the same pathway. That’s why, once you shift over and you become keto or fat-adapted, all of a sudden your brain works because now it has fuel. Where it was struggling to get glucose in the cells, the ketones go right in. It’s so efficient. That’s a big reason that the brain—I always say, when you get that brain high, it’s like wow. No doubt your cells were not sensitive enough to insulin, so it’s really neat to feel that.

Warren:

I’m thinking the brain, and I’m thinking the body and some of the—like your Cellular Healing Diet, Dr. Pompa, that’s been so useful for people. You downregulate cellular inflammation. You rest because your body’s going to a more ketogenic type state. You’re resting the insulin receptors on the cell. Not only are you starting to go into a ketotic state, but you’re allowing the cells—you always said in the book, and I’ve heard you say it before. If you scream at someone’s ear long enough, the hairs on the eardrum or the follicles get destroyed and blunted, so they can’t hear. That’s like insulin screaming to get glucose in the cell, but they can’t get glucose in the cell because the receptors on the cell are fried.

That’s what’s happening in the brain. The insulin is going into the brain, screaming at the brain cell. Saying I want in. I need to get glucose so we can run the cellular function to have memory and hormone function, normal hormone function, amongst other things. When we get into a ketotic state, we rest the cells. You start using ketones. It turns on the brain using that for energy. At the same time, we’re resting the brain cells so that they can start to heal in the receptor, so the next time we talk to them with sugar, they can actually listen.

The other thing that popped in my brain as you were explaining that, that’s why I’ve heard over the years is that Alzheimer’s is diabetes of the brain. If the insulin isn’t coming, isn’t enabling the cells to open up and utilize glucose for cellular energy and memory and all the things that the brain would need, then your brain’s shutting down, and therefore, it starts dying. It sounds like if you don’t fix this problem, if you have those sorts of symptoms, your brain is literally shriveling up and dying because it’s getting starved is what it sounds like to me.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. No. It’s happening at younger people. We’re starting to see Alzheimer’s, signs of Alzheimer’s in teenagers. It was amazing. I was somewhere. Zach Bush was speaking, a very bright scientist, just always doing some incredible research. He said, really, 100% of the population has signs of Alzheimer’s right now. I mean, it was like whoa. I mean, that’s the level of neurotoxins that we’re exposed to as well as this over carbohydrate nation that we’re living in right now.

Look, Parkinson’s, here’s another one. By the way, I don’t want to scare people but I do about Alzheimer’s. When you look at the statistics, by 2050, okay, by 2050, it’s estimated that three-quarters of the population over the age of 65 will have Alzheimer’s. That’s a staggering number. I mean, that is a major, major number. I’m sorry. I said three-quarters, one in three, one in three over the age of 65, Alzheimer’s disease. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about Parkinson’s. Here’s another neurodegenerative disease that’s really—I mean, it is epidemic right now.

Warren:

We want to change that with people listening to the show. Welcome, health hunters. Let’s listen to our sponsors talking a few minutes.

Warren:

You just left us with a staggering statistic. By 2050, I think you said that, right, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep.

Warren:

One in three, one in three humans over the age of 65 you said?

Dr. Pompa:

Correct.

Warren:

I was paying attention, will have Alzheimer’s. I mean, what will that do to the nation? What will that do to our financial state? What will that do for someone who’s worked all their life, and now want to spend time with their grandchildren? They can’t even remember their name. They can’t enjoy them. They can’t follow them and have a conversation where my 90-year-old grandmother was smarter than me. I remember. I mean, she was smart as a whip. She was playing cards. She remembered everybody’s name.

Man, this carb nation is—this is ridiculous. I mean, lives are on the line here, so we got to share this show with the world and shows like this.

Dr. Pompa:

It’s going to upset healthcare. We’re not going to be able to fix this healthcare problem that we’ve created. You look at the rise in autism. You’re talking, by 2032, it’s estimated one in two children on the spectrum, so I mean, that’s a scary number. You put that in line with the Alzheimer’s epidemic. Look, we have to do something.

Ketosis is part of the answer, but I want to make it clear. When we look at a lot of the new research coming out, we realize it’s a glucose and toxic issue. It’s almost a perfect storm if you will that we’re getting right now. I think we talked a little bit about the chemical glyphosate that’s being sprayed on all of our food supply. It’s opening up the blood brain barrier, and it’s allowing toxins like mercury, lead, things that we’re just exposed to since the time we were children all the way—every day, basically, to cross deeper into the brain. You have the toxins driving inflammation, and then you have this glucose insulin issue.

In Parkinson’s, look, there’s an enzyme. Insulin and glucose are very, very, very damaging. The body has to get rid of them quickly. Otherwise it drives inflammation oxidative stress. There’s an enzyme in the brain called insulin degrading enzyme, for short, IDE. Its job is to get rid of dangerous insulin in the brain. It has to break it down very quickly. Otherwise it drives inflammation.

The problem is is we’re exposing our brain to so much glucose, right, I mean, so much, so much. We’re exhausting this process. The insulin has to keep going up, up, up to get the glucose in the cell so you can think, so you can function, and this insulin degrading enzyme is being downregulated. It’s being used up, if you will. Here’s the problem. Also, it has another job. Not only to get rid of the insulin but to break down amyloid proteins and plaques. We know that’s a problem in Parkinson’s where we’re seeing the buildup of the amyloid plaques. It is partly due to this degrading insulin—the decreasing of this insulin degrading enzyme. You put that on top of the neurotoxins. Parkinson’s is also associated with aluminum in mercury in the brain, so this is a double-edged sword.

Look, how are doctors seeing such results around the country? They’re getting to these causes. I mean, if you remove the cause, the body can heal itself. I mean, we’re not going to find an answer in a drug. We’re just not. I mean, we have to get rid of the toxins. The drugs can alleviate the symptoms temporarily. There may even be a time for that, right? However, the problem is we have to look at these causes, and we better darn right do something about it.

Warren:

Again, I talk to the—I would just say I call them normal people. I would say we’re abnormal. We’re definitely a smaller group, a percentage of folks who think differently. Sometimes they call us the crazy ones, right, but the crazy ones change the world. Literally, the science is we’re becoming a more sick nation, even though we have more science and more technology when it comes to healthcare, right? There’s some great surgeries and things where we’re saving children with heart conditions and all this cool stuff, and science is just awesome that way.

When it comes to degenerative conditions, I forget what our numbers are, but we’re pretty much leading the world in degenerative conditions. You have all the science, all the money. We got tons of cash. Other countries are stashing their cash in America because our economy is actually that stable. There’s another fear mongering thing that we won’t jump into, but yet, we’re dying. If you look at the statistics, you look at Alzheimer’s, heart disease, cancer. Let’s look at it. Let’s face the reality. The cold, hard reality is change or die, right? That’s our future.

The information that we share on this show and other shows that are popping up—and again, we’re about everybody moving this forward. We have a stark reality. In the normal people and I talk to them, they’re just not scared enough to make that change, and that’s my concern, Dr. Pompa. I listen to the truth that we get to share here as health hunters and finding these truths and sharing these truths on the show, but my heart starts to break when I think about my neighbors. They’re interested in what I’m saying, especially if I pop in the word weight loss, and then they peak up a little bit more. I do use that little weight loss card every once in a while to get their interest.

At the end of the day, they look at me and say I’m a—I love sugar. I got my little Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup stashed in my cupboard, and they just love sugar. They’re so highly addicted to sugar. They’re listening to the show, and said there’s no way I can do this, Dr. Pompa and Warren. I hear what you’re saying. It makes sense that our bodies were designed to do this. Science isn’t the answer. It’s failing us in this area, degenerative conditions.

What can you say to those people to inspire them? Is there more science that we can share with them? What can we do? Is it the compassion in my voice? I don’t know, but I just don’t want to see these statistics continue. Can we create a movement, a health hunter movement, an XYZ movement of individuals that take health back into their own hands? Put that bow and arrow of—and hunt for the truths that can really transform their lives.

Dr. Pompa:

One of our passions has become to train doctors around the country to do what we’re doing. This multi-therapeutic approach utilizing these ancient healing strategies, the Cellular Healing Diet, ketosis, fasting, intermittent fasting, and diet variation, feast-famine cycles as we call it, along with the true cellular detox work, along with the true cellular healing work that we do, that’s a multi-therapeutic approach that we’re putting together. We would never make an impact by ourselves, but if we can get a large enough growing group of doctors who are actually desiring to go upstream and get to the cause, educate their clients and their patients about these topics, therein lies the answer. Honestly, it is about education. You can see the craze that ketosis has. Again, my prediction and my fear is that ketosis will go in and out of phase just like most diets.

Why? People are using that as the only thing, right? They’re going to go into a state of ketosis, and say I’m not losing weight anymore. They’re going to go right back out, and this fad is going to come and go. However, it needs to be a tool. It should be a tool. I’m looking at a study in front of me now: ketone bodies, potential therapy use, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. I mean, I have stacks of studies showing the potential use for ketogenic diets in this treatment paradigm of neurological disorders, etc.

These are studies. Not my opinion, solid studies here. It has to be used in a tool, as a tool, within a whole multi-therapeutic approach. We have to remove the sources. I said that when you look at conditions like Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, neurodegenerative, autism, memory loss, dementia, all of it is toxin induced, inflammation induced from overuse of—overconsumption of carbohydrates, glucose, elevating insulin. You put these two things together; this is why people are getting sick. We have an answer that people need and want. We’re going to get it out through a group of doctors. Therefore, then we can get it out as a team, a group, and shift a paradigm.

Warren:

It is a paradigm shift. I just so want our listeners to try some of these things. Give it a try, and make comments, and start a community. Even at healthhunterstv.com, they can go there, and start asking questions and joining the conversation. As I’m saying this, I just think it does need to be that group. It needs to be a support, and if they’re having challenges, we can go back to what you said earlier. They may need a coach if they have a degenerative condition. It’s worth the investment to have a coach.

Whatever you invest into, if you have a $20,000 vehicle or a $40,000 vehicle, right, depending on where your income level is at, a $20,000 vehicle could be the nicest vehicle you ever had. You’re going to take care of that. How much more do you need to take care of your body and invest into it? When you invest into something, you’re not going to scratch the paint. You’re going to invest. You’re actually going to do it. You’re going to take care of it, so when you invest in yourself—and some folks don’t feel like they’re worth it. I’m not worth it. It’s not for me.

Dr. Pompa:

You are worth it. Hey, look, go to Cellular Healing TV at our website, drpompa.com. I’ve interviewed the experts, Dominic D’Agostino, doing research on ketosis for the defense department. Thomas Seyfried, cancer is a metabolic disease. Listen to those podcasts. Educate yourselves. Choose a different way.

Warren:

See you next week, guys. Have a great rest of your week.