01: The Answer Lies 180° Opposite of What “They” Say
The Answer Lies 180 Degrees Opposite of What “They” Say…
Replay & Transcript of Episode 1
Health Seekers Radio December 5, 2015
Welcome to Health Seekers, a show where two mortal men with extraordinary curiosity and decades of experience work on your behalf to seek in the overlapping realms of body, mind, and spirit. The goal? Empowering you to achieve the highest levels of excellence. Dr. Dan Pompa, renowned expert in cellular health, and longtime health and fitness expert Phil Kaplan come together for a show that demands your full attention. Join Dan, Phil, and guests from around the planet, sharing enlightenment and insight all aimed at the best you’ve ever seen. This is an interactive broadcast. Call in with thoughts, questions, or comments. Now, Dr. Dan Pompa and Phil Kaplan turning on the heat, kicking up the dust, and finding the truth you deserve.
Phil Kaplan:
Turning up the heat, do you know what this is? I’m going to tell you exactly what this is. Yeah, it’s a radio show but it’s more than that. This is therapy. That sounded like this is Jeopardy. This is therapy. Dr. Pompa, I want you to know this – I’m very pent-up.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Pent-up?
Phil Kaplan:
Yeah. Yeah.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
What does pent-up actually mean? It sounds tense. I don’t know what, man. It sounds like you’re ready to burst out of your skin, maybe. I don’t know.
Phil Kaplan:
I am. I am, and that’s why this show is so important and therapeutic because at least now I have an outlet. When you’re pent-up you need an outlet, right?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I guess that means I’ve been pent-up for a long time because I’ve been waiting for this opportunity to bring this information to as many people as we can. Here we are Phil Kaplan.
Phil Kaplan:
Yeah, so we’re going to de-pent. That’s when you go from being pent-up to being less pent-up. Of course, next time I’ll be pent up all over again. Let me tell you why. I was on a plane last night. I was flying home from Pittsburgh to my home in Florida. I was flying into Ft. Lauderdale but I couldn’t get a direct flight so I had a layover in Baltimore. On the flight from Pittsburgh to Baltimore, I’m sitting next to a woman. Actually there was a middle seat between us, which was great. The reason it was great is because she was big. She takes up a lot of space, okay? She’s sitting near the window, an empty seat, and then me. We’re having a nice pleasant conversation before we take-off. She was really nice. Did I say she was nice? Before we even get into the air, she reaches into this big bag that was stuffed under the seat. I looked at it first and I said there’s no way that’s going to fit under the seat, but she stuffed it, and it stayed. She pulls out that bag. She reaches in and she pulls out – if you’re ready for this – Bugles. Do you remember Bugles?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh yeah. You used to put them on your fingers, right? You’d go after your brother or sister with these things on your finger. Absolutely.
Phil Kaplan:
Right, like you’re Freddy Krueger. I didn’t know that they even make them anymore.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I was just going to say that. I was going to date my age here.
Phil Kaplan:
She might have hoarded them for 15 years. She opens the bag, and she’s eating the Bugles, and she’s liking those Bugles. She’s licking her fingers. They were, to her, very good Bugles. We’re talking a little more. Now we’re in the air, probably ten minutes past, and she reaches down into that bag and she takes out Nacho Cheese Doritos. Now she’s talking to me, and crunching, and chewing, and talking, and crunching, and chewing, and really liking these Doritos now. This is where she gets to me. She goes, “I’m really into health.”
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I guess the next question would be like, “Really? In what way?”
Phil Kaplan:
Yes! See, that’s what I’m looking for. How do you say that politely? How do go, “What do you mean? You’re eating Doritos, you’re eating the Bugles.” I go, “Do you exercise?” She goes, “Ewe”.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Okay.
Phil Kaplan:
Ewe. I go “Okay, I’m going to take that as a no.” She goes, “No, I hate exercise. I hate health clubs, I hate treadmills—hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.” Now even more I have to find where is she into health, right? She tells me that she makes her own skin cream and she makes it all from natural ingredients.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Ah. She’s in her own business.
Phil Kaplan:
Yeah. She uses chemical fragrances. She doesn’t use organic products, but somehow they’re healthy. I guess she saw the look on my face and she said to me, “I know what you’re thinking.” I got a little nervous because I didn’t know if she really knew what I was thinking. She goes, “You’re watching me eat, and you’re probably wondering how I could eat that way and say I’m into health.” I’m like, “Bingo!”
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
You should tell her that “You nailed it, honey.”
Phil Kaplan:
Yup. Here’s where she goes – are you ready for this Dan?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I’m ready.
Phil Kaplan:
She said, “I don’t typically eat healthy foods but I watch my calories.” That’s Part 1.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Now you know I’m cringing now. You know I’m cringing.
Phil Kaplan: Yeah. Yeah, and this is where I’m starting to get pent-up because like you, I’d want to explain. Right now I just want to get up and walk down the aisle and start teaching. Let me tell you guys about calories.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh yeah. I’ve been there.
Phil Kaplan:
I didn’t. I held it back in and I’m thinking, okay, this will be released on the show tomorrow. Then she goes a step further. She looks me right in the eye – a little bit of Dorito in her teeth – and she says, “It’s all about genetics.”
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh now, come on Phil, you’re hitting on all my hot spots now.
Phil Kaplan:
I haven’t hit the hot spot yet.
Dr. Daniel Pompa: Come on.
Phil Kaplan:
Now you’re a little pent-up, right?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh, no. I’m coming out of my skin right now. I just want to go.
Phil Kaplan:
I wrote this down because I want to make sure I say it exactly the way she said it to me. “It’s all about genetics. They say, with my body type, whether I exercise or not, I’ll look the same.” I want to say it again because I know this is getting to you right now. “It’s all about genetics. They say with my body type, whether I exercise or not, I’ll look the same.” Here is my thought—you have no idea who “they” are. “They” are ruining this poor woman’s life. Here it is again, Dr. Pompa – “they” are screwing up lives. Would you have been able to contain yourself?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Phil, come on. “They” say that if we’re just not gluttons and would reduce our calories we would be a thin nation. Come on. “They?” “They” say a lot of things, Phil. My concern is that “they” is after us; “they” is maybe not so good. I don’t know their advice.
Phil Kaplan:
This is something we have in common right now with our listeners, by the way. Most of us don’t know who “they” are. “They” keep saying stuff and it’s not good stuff. “They” keep saying stuff and our entire population is doing what “they” say. “They” are controlling us.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
“They” have been around a long time. I think we can all remember our grandmothers saying to us, “Listen, ‘they’ say that if your cholesterol’s high, that’s bad for your heart.” “They” say that if you just take a little bit of fish oil, Phil, then that’s good for your heart and your brain. Phil, come on, even our grandmothers back when I was nine years old was telling me “they” said a lot of good things.
Phil Kaplan:
I think when we come back from the break we’re going to share some questions with the people so they get a sense of maybe how they’re being deceived, how they’re being misled. Together we’re on a mission of truth. For anybody who’s meeting us for the first time, we come from two different but parallel worlds. My world was the health and fitness industry. It was my life. It was my passion. I was all about health. I was a competitive athlete, exercise physiologist. I really found the greatest passion helping people understand how to get fit. I grew frustrated because what I found is that most people are misled. Dr. Pompa, you came from a similar, but different, world. Do you want to share that?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah. I started life in my professional career as a chiropractor. Then I got very sick and it through me into the world of functional medicine where I exist now and teach doctors around the country what I do. Look, in my own search and journey of getting my life back, I found and I still find that most truth, especially when it comes to your health is 180 degrees opposite of everything we hear, Phil, in the media. Everything. I always say this if I’m lecturing to a group of people whether it’s doctors or the public, I always say, “Look, if you want to know what to do, what to eat, how to get healthy, pretty much watch the news, read magazines, do 180 degrees opposite, and somehow, Phil, you hit it right every time. Why is that? Is it because “they” is saying these things and it’s opposite. I mean, really? Are “they” out to get us or are “they” out to save us, Phil?
Phil Kaplan:
One day – and I hope it’s a day very soon – you and I will find “they” and we will stop them. We will stop them from saying those things. When we look at this it has to be coming from “they” because if it’s 180 degrees opposite, “they” are saying things that are making us believe a certain way. At the very least I want you to think right now, who are “they” and why are you listening to what “they” say? We’ll be back in just a couple of minutes to share a little bit more of the health truth right here on Health Seekers radio.
Phil Kaplan:
Okay, we’re back. Here we are seeking help on Health Seekers Radio. My name is Phil Kaplan. I’m here with my very good friend and colleague, Dr. Daniel Pompa. Dr. Pompa, we started out talking about the frustration of what “they” say.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah.
Phil Kaplan:
I said when we come back from the break we’re going to share a couple of questions, maybe so people can—I’m going to say get back something they lost, but the truth is I don’t know if they ever really had it. What I’m talking about is common sense. We all hear that that term common sense. I think “they” have screwed it up so much that sensibility is no longer common. It’s not even common anymore. It’s the exception. Here are you and I fighting the fight, trying to get people to stop and think before you make these decisions, before you go to the health food stores and buy those supplements, before you start to exercise for 90 minutes in the gym, before you hire a personal trainer. There are some things that you have to stop and consider. I think if you start to reclaim some sensibility, maybe we’ll get to a point where there is, again, common sense. Here’s a question—I’m just putting this out there—why are so many overweight people on diets? Now, I want you to stop and think about that. Dr. Pompa, what would happen if the diets worked?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh, I guess if the diets worked we’d be the thinnest nation on the planet, but I believe we’re the fattest.
Phil Kaplan:
Are there more diets today than ever before?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Can you even count them?
Phil Kaplan:
It was a product that came in a can that was a drink that people would want to drink when they wanted to lose weight. They would have one of these in the morning, and then they’d have another, and then they’d have a healthy dinner. If you would stand by the display in any store, no fit people ever bought them. Again, I want you to hold on to some common sense. If they worked, if they really worked, wouldn’t at least a portion of those people have lost the weight they wanted to lose and say this is a really good product, I’m going to continue to consume that product. What we’ve seen is as more and more and more diets emerge, our population is getting fatter, and fatter, and fatter. If that’s a little in your face, I don’t apologize. I’m not calling you a name. I’m sharing a reality that may not be politically correct to share, but it’s the truth. When we hear statistics, you know, a third of our population is obese, a third of our population is overweight but not obese, and a third of our—that’s an understatement. The numbers are much higher when we look at the adult population over the age of 45. If you start with that, if you go why are so many overweight people on diets? At some point, wouldn’t you have to ask yourself if the diets worked, wouldn’t we have fewer overweight people?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah, that’s a great question to ask, but look, the problem is this. “They” say that it’s not about the diet. America’s just eating too much and exercising too little. Basically, we’re gluttons and we’re lazy. That’s what “they” say. Therefore, we have a lot of diets but regardless, America, we’re gluttons and we exercise too little. So, I don’t know, is that right? Is that answer? Is that really the truth?
Phil Kaplan:
You know there were so many questions that I hope can help people reel in that thing that I’m calling common sense. I think one of the areas that I find prevalent in terms of common knowledge, although it isn’t really knowledge, is this idea of cholesterol being really harmful. So, somebody goes to the doctor and you have high cholesterol and no problem, no problem at all. Dr. Daniel Pompa: Right. Right.
Phil Kaplan:
You’ve just reached that point in time where they have to start getting on cholesterol medication. I think we’d have to, if we look at the statistics, wonder why so many people who are taking cholesterol medications have heart attacks.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah.
Phil Kaplan:
If there’s a pill that lowers the cholesterol, and the cholesterol is the factor that leads to heart attack, how could that possibly be?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Well, it sounds like common sense. If this cholesterol elevated causes heart attacks, then taking a pill that lowers it, we would absolutely, Phil, see a reduction in heart attacks in this country. What is it, a $9 billion industry selling statin drugs? Of course we would see a reduction in heart disease.
Phil Kaplan:
Dr. Pompa, I know you’ve been doing a lot of work in research and, thankfully, helping a lot of people in the area of what we would call brain health. There are some really scary words like Alzheimer’s and dementia. That’s really become an area of focus for you. I know you’re bringing about incredible change, but people have heard that there are some supplements they can take to prevent or reverse that movement toward Alzheimer’s and dementia. Are people taking the right stuff?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
“They” say that if you take fish oil every day, it’s not only good for your heart and cholesterol it’s good for your brain. It can even prevent neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s disease. That’s what “they” say, Phil.
Phil Kaplan:
I know, and it’s becoming common knowledge, right? Again, I use that term loosely because people hold that in their head. They go, you know what, my parents started to lose it at a certain age, so I’m going to take fish oil because “they” say that it’s going to help me prevent that monster from showing up in my own life.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Phil, let me say this—when I’m on the phone with people from all over the world about their health, I would have to say about 90% of them take fish oil, Vitamin D, and a probiotic. That’s what most people—oh, and I’ll add one more, a multi-vitamin. Those four things “they” say is really good for our health and will make us healthy. Most people are taking those things but could “they” be wrong, is a good question.
Phil Kaplan:
We’re not asking anybody to listen to us and believe. We’re simply asking you to consider. I have another one. Why are there overweight aerobics instructors? How could that possible be?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Wow. They do five, six, even eight classes a day. How could it be? How could that be?
Phil Kaplan:
Oh wait, maybe because they have the body type. Remember what I told you on the airplane the woman told me.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh, it’s genetic. It’s genetic. That’s why—because of their bad genetics, that’s why they’re doing five to eight classes a day, I see. I’m getting it. Okay.
Phil Kaplan:
Just like diets, there are more health clubs than ever, more fitness alternatives than ever, more fitness videos, infomercials than ever, and our population’s getting fatter. It almost sounds like, and I’m not saying this is true, it almost sounds like if we grab ahold of common sense and we look at a little bit of reality, it sounds like dieting and exercising makes people fatter.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
It sounds like supplements could be making people dumber. Could it be even causing heart attacks? What about the Vitamin D. We read research that it’s so good and then we read research that it can cause cancer and all these other problems. Could the very supplements you’re taking be causing disease? “They” said that these are good and we should do it. Could fish oil literally be causing your brain to malfunction? I don’t know.
Phil Kaplan:
Well, maybe you do know. In the second half of the show I want to share some of those truths. I want to start to help people really understand where the truth lies. As you said earlier, it lies where?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
That 180 degrees opposite of what you hear, at least what “they” say. It lies 180 degrees opposite, so if you’ve heard these things that we’ve been talking about go 180 degrees opposite and maybe the truth, in fact, lies there.
Phil Kaplan:
There are more questions. Why, with this anti-aging movement, are people aging faster? Why are doctors so busy?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Why are…
Phil Kaplan:
If doctors were getting people well why would they be so busy? Consider those questions. When we come back we’re going to share a few truths. You’re listening to Phil Kaplan, Dr. Dan Pompa on Health Seekers Radio, be right back.
Phil Kaplan:
Welcome back. You don’t want to leave; you want to stay with us because we’re right in the middle of it right now. We’re in the middle of Health Seekers Radio. We are about to learn some truth. If you’re just tuning in, at the beginning of the show we spoke about “they”. “They say.” I know you’ve heard what “they” say. I would guess you’ve even said what “they” say. You’ve told other people “they say.” We’re here to tell you “they” are lying to you. Then we try to give you a little of that thing that we miss so much in our society, called common sense, by asking some questions for you to consider. Now I think we have an obligation. Dr. Pompa, I think it’s time we actually share some truth with them. I’m going to throw you a softball here because I know this is a pet peeve of yours. We mentioned earlier this idea of cholesterol of being bad.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Right.
Phil Kaplan:
As soon as they get that warning, as soon as they get the doctor to look at their bloodwork and the doctor is like, oh, your cholesterol is high, it’s almost instantaneous, now, that they are prescribed a drug to get rid of that thing—this is the simplicity of the way it’s understood—get rid of that thing that might cause them heart attacks, namely cholesterol. Share a little truth, Dr. Pompa.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Well, Phil, “they” also say that if you just eat a bowl of oatmeal in the morning, or Cheerios, that would lower your cholesterol. Maybe that is the answer but let me tell you something, “they” sold a whole lot of Cheerios and a whole lot of oatmeal. Folks, I wish it were that simple. Here’s the reality. The reality is this, again, it’s a180 degrees opposite of what you’ve been told. Do you realize that more people, Phil, die of heart attacks with normal to low cholesterol? How could that be? Because we have been feared into the fact that cholesterol kills.
What I’m saying is that studies actually show that more people die with normal to low cholesterol. What is that? There’s a higher mortality for normal to low cholesterol. That’s the reality, so I don’t know, Phil. Maybe that’s why we have a $9 billion industry and a large percentage of the population taking statin drugs and we really don’t see any dent in the number of heart attacks. Could it be that cholesterol really isn’t causing heart attacks? One thing I always say, Phil, “Look, it’s not the cholesterol, it’s oxidation of cholesterol.”
Here’s the truth, folks, and I can give you great analogy to understand this further. The fact is that total cholesterol doesn’t matter. There’s something called particles that carry cholesterol around the blood. The more of those you have and the smaller those particles, that’s what oxidizes, that’s what can drive inflammation. That’s the real cause of heart -inaudible-. You see it’s not so simple just to say cholesterol causes heart disease. As a matter of fact, many people with very low cholesterol—180, 160 even, I’ve seen have very high cholesterol particles and that’s a danger. Phil, let me give you an analogy. As soon as you mention particle and cholesterol you lose people. Folks, let me ask you a question. In a traffic jam—so you imagine the traffic jam—what matters more, the number of cars or the number of people in the cars? I hope, Phil, that they’re answering the number of cars because the number of people in the cars doesn’t make a traffic jam any better or worse but the number of cars does. That’s equivalent to the particles of cholesterol you have. See, the particle is carrying cholesterol. Cholesterol cannot move around the blood by itself. It needs to be carried in a particle. That’s the car. Well the people in the car, that’s the cholesterol that’s being carried by the car. So you see the analogy? We have the car or the particle of cholesterol carrying the cholesterol, the people. The total cholesterol—the number of people in the cars—doesn’t matter. More cars matter, so it’s not so simple. If you just have high cholesterol, again, if we look at the top five big studies on cholesterol, Phil, it’s really amazing—I’m sorry, on statin drugs—and its effect on heart attacks, these small percentages could just be from a small anti-inflammatory, in fact you could even get it from extra Vitamin C, perhaps, or some type of antioxidant, maybe. The point is that cholesterol—not so simple, not the big fear that we think it is. As a matter of fact, I’m going to go 180 degrees opposite, Phil. Cholesterol is, in fact, the most important fat in the body. You need it for your brain, you can’t think without it. That’s why we know statin drugs cause liver failure; that’s why it causes early dementia; that’s why statin drugs are linked to diet type 2 diabetes. This is a very, very important fat in the body.
Phil Kaplan:
Dr. Pompa, there are words that people use and they honestly don’t understand what the words mean. It’s not out of stupidity, these are very intelligent people, it’s really out of deception. A word like that is calorie. People, for years, have been looking at calories. If I ask them what is a calorie, they don’t really know how to define it. They go into the food thing.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Right.
Phil Kaplan:
Another great word that people use and throw around but they don’t understand is metabolism. What is metabolism? They go well, I know this woman, and she can eat anything and not get fat. That’s their answer to that. They don’t understand what metabolism is. I think cholesterol is such a word.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah.
Phil Kaplan:
I want the listeners to know that Dr. Pompa isn’t just spouting out information. He’s a researcher, he studies, and he works with real human beings to improve their health. We see the changes in the people we come in contact with. The research is there and it’s in the medical journals. This is not just coming out of left field on a radio show. When you said “studies show,” there was one landmark study. UCLA did a landmark study with the American Heart Association. Two-hundred forty-one thousand people—I don’t have the exact number in front of me—who were admitted to hospitals around the country for heart attacks, that was the sampling size. That’s a pretty big number, right? More than half of the people, just to reinforce what you said, more than half of the people who were admitted to hospitals for heart attacks had normal cholesterol. More had normal cholesterol so how could that possibly be the marker? Here’s my question for you, Dr. Pompa: Why? Why, in your mind, are so many people being fed these statin drugs, these cholesterol-lowering medications?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
There’s only one answer to that. “They” must be manufacturing them. Maybe “they” is the drug companies, I don’t know. Maybe “they” is the government, I don’t know but I know this, if we could figure out who “they” is maybe we could stop a lot of this nonsense that goes on in health that’s for sure.
Phil Kaplan:
Yeah. At the very least we know this, if the drug companies have a party “they” are going to be there, right? If they’re not “them”, they’re connected.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
That’s exactly right. They must be connected somehow.
Phil Kaplan:
I want to make one more point in line with what you said because people are hearing us. Some people are nodding their heads because they’ve found some truth, but many people are going, “What? Cholesterol is important? That’s crazy.”
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
More people are saying “What?”
Phil Kaplan:
Cholesterol is the raw material for DHEA. DHEA in our bodies is the raw material for our hormones, for our sex-hormones. In essence, cholesterol is the raw material for the entire hormonal cascade. Why would you want to eliminate that, right?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Listen, I’ll do you one better. Every hormone attaches to your cell on a receptor. That’s how it works. Your hormones have to actually attach to these receptors on cells and send information to the cells. It’s the only way it works. Well, guess what? That receptor rides on something called a lipid raft. That means this thing made of fat. Well, guess what? The number one fat is saturated fat and cholesterol in this receptor that stabilizes the receptor. We have more and more studies coming out that are showing saturated fat and cholesterol, ironically enough, are the very fats that we need to actually fix our hormonal health. We make hormones from cholesterol. Phil, it’s at the top of the hormone chain. LDL, the a.k.a. bad cholesterol, is at the top of the hormone chain meaning that you don’t make hormones without LDL cholesterol. Look, people today, the inability to lose weight despite your diet, despite how much you exercise, it’s more of a hormone problem then it is even a food problem. I know that just stunned a lot of people there but there’s a reason for that. The fact is, is that cholesterol is the top of the hormone chain. If hormones have something to do with why people can’t lose weight today, the real reason, then gosh, man, this might be one of the most important fats that we can raise, elevate, eat.
Phil Kaplan:
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You’re saying, and some of what we’ve said today, is that if people want to lose weight and they’re struggling with it, they might really need to relook at their cholesterol because they may need some more, right? We’re also saying it’s possible that the exercise routines that many people are following are making them fatter. We’re also looking at some questions to discern that it’s possible that diets actually make people fatter. Now, Dan, I have a theory. I have a theory and you may call this a conspiracy theory. You notice how fast time goes when we’re on the air, right?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Yeah, gosh.
Phil Kaplan:
I think “they” are speeding up the clock so we’re going to have to take a break. We’ll be back right after some very important words.
Phil Kaplan:
Dr. Pompa, I said before the break I believe “they” have control of the time right now because “they” speed up the clock because we’re sharing truth and “they” don’t like it, right?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Right. “They” don’t like it.
Phil Kaplan:
Time does go really quickly. This is why it is vitally important when somebody connects with Health Seekers Radio they’ve got to stay connected. Now, I’m going to say this, we barely scratched the surface on a single topic, cholesterol. We barely scratched the surface. I would guess if Dr. Pompa and I made a list of all the topics we feel obliged to cover, they would be in the thousands. There is a lot of information and we can only give it to you in bits and pieces. In upcoming weeks we are going to have some guests that are going to blow you away; some relatively well-known, some not so well-known, but they should be. I want to say this, Dr. Pompa, believe it or not, does not know everything. Is that reasonable to say?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I hope so.
Phil Kaplan:
Okay. Nor do I. We are, in essence, you. We are you, the listener. The difference is we have access. We have access to information. We’re in the field. We’re seeing outcomes on a daily basis. Health Seekers Radio is exactly that. Dr. Pompa and I, Phil Kaplan, are working on your behalf. As time goes on we’re going to look to you, the listener, to join us on the show, and to communicate with us, and tell us what questions you have. In the limited time that we have left, Dr. Pompa, I’m going to throw you a few more softballs, and I want you to just give really brief responses just so people get a sense of what it is that they don’t know. Here’s a big one. I’m just going to say two words and you’ll know where to go with it—diet soda.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
My computer—oh, yeah, there was a diet soda spilled on my computer a week ago and it shorted it out. Anyways, that’s another subject, but it does bring me to the subject of an airplane and something that always happens on an airplane. By the way, that happened on an airplane. The flight attendant reaching the diet soda off, splashes on my keyboard, the rest was history. Often times I’m on the airplane and someone orders the Diet Coke and, Phil, it’s invariable I have to get some work done and I really don’t want to enter into that conversation.
Phil Kaplan:
You get pent-up if you don’t.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Oh, man, and there I am. It’s like you can almost see the clock ticking down—ten, nine, eight, seven—and I have to say something. Typically, I lead in with a question of “Why do you drink the Diet Coke?” Of course it’s never because I want to lose weight or not gain weight, it’s never that, although that may have been the reason originally. They say things “I like the taste better.” I say, “Okay, I have to ask you this, did you like the taste when you first started?” “Actually no, I didn’t, but now I’ve really acquired a taste.” That’s because diet soda has a chemical that is more addictive than sugar. It is a drug. This stuff is extremely addictive, and here’s the 180, guys, here’s the 180—180 degrees opposite, Diet Coke makes you more fat than regular Coke. Can you believe that? It blunts these hormone receptors, has such a negative hormone impact that, yes, it actually creates more weight gain, addiction, messes with our brain. We know it’s linked to different neurodegenerative diseases. Please, if you’re going to drink soda—and I don’t recommend it—go back to the old stuff. Forget about the diet. We’d be skinnier, right? Come on, think about it. Everyone’s drinking Diet Coke so this must be healthier. Well, it’s a 180. “They” said that it was healthier. Were “they” wrong? “They” were wrong.
Phil Kaplan:
I want to ask you a question. Do you believe that medications can cure chronic disease? Just a yes or no. Do you believe, Dr. Pompa, that medications, any medication, can cure a chronic disease?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
No cure. Symptoms.
Phil Kaplan:
So, let me ask you something else. If somebody is diagnosed with a chronic disease—I’ll give some examples, type 2 diabetes; high cholesterol, they consider that a disease; metabolic syndrome; thyroid irregularity; hypothyroidism. If somebody is diagnosed with such a disease, do you believe at least in some cases, maybe the great majority, and maybe all, but at least in some, those conditions are reversible?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I absolutely believe it. I see it.
Phil Kaplan:
You see it. Does it ever come from the medication? I mean ever, have you ever seen somebody with a chronic disease take a medication and not have the disease anymore?
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Look, there’s a time and a place to take a medication. Typically, it’s acute situations. You know, very short term things, not chronic disease, Phil.
Phil Kaplan:
When we start to share some more truth, here’s what you’re going to learn. The power lies within you. In fact, I’ll go a step further. You already have the power to heal. You already have the power to be better. We just have to teach you how to access it. That’s it. As long as you listen to what “they” say, you will be prevented from accessing your own power. Here’s what I’m promising you, hang out with us every week and you are going to gain greater and greater access to that power.
“They” say that something outside of you can make you well. Are there instances where that’s true? Yes, but when it comes to chronic disease, no. What do I mean by chronic disease? Well, get this, 65% of our adult population over the age of 45—just sit on that for a second—65%, that’s more than half, 65% of our adult population over the age of 45 have been diagnosed with a chronic disease, such as the ones I mentioned or maybe something else. That doesn’t mean that it’s limited to 65%. Those have been diagnosed. Many cases of high blood sugar and high blood pressure have not yet been diagnosed. We’re looking at an epidemic, and “they” are leading people in the wrong direction. We’re saying to you, turn around, you have to know the truth.
Here are some things that may shock you. We alluded to this earlier, it’s absolutely true. Too much aerobic exercise can make you fatter. What is too much? We’ll talk about it, but what may shock you is in our programs people begin with six-minutes a day. I know it sounds crazy because “they” have clogged your brain with other stuff, but we’re seeing outcomes. Six-minutes a day of aerobic exercises a day and people are moving back toward health along with what we call the disease continuum. In the great majority of cases when we work with people who already exercise, the first thing we have to get them well, to get them better, to get them leaner, reduce the volume of exercise. More is not always better.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Exact opposite.
Phil Kaplan:
These are just a few. We’re throwing them out there, again, because time’s moving quickly. We are more than your friends, we really are, and we’re more than your coaches. Remember what I said earlier. We’re working on your behalf to find the answers that you have not found yet. We haven’t found those answers yet. We are determined to find who “they” are and stop “they” from saying all of those things. Once we do that we’ll have a different world. In the meantime, the best that we can do is educate and empower people. That’s why I’m so thankful that we have this forum.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
Hey, Phil, you know we represent about four or five percent of the world population here in the United States. We take about three-quarters of the drugs in the world, in the United States, and yet we have more degenerative disease than any country in the world. So, how’s that working out? How is that working out, right? Maybe there’s another approach. The sad part to me, Phil, is that the other approach that people are starting to reach out for, “they” have them very confused as well.
At the top of the show I had just mentioned that there’re four things that most people are taking. I’m telling you, this morning—I know, it was really early—how could you possibly have read an article this morning? I actually did, Phil. It was about 3:10 in the morning. I don’t want to tell you where I was and where I was sitting, but that’s where I read it. It was a great thing. It was sitting on my desktop for a long time, about probiotic. Everybody’s taking probiotic today. This article is saying why this is so bad and dangerous because you’re taking one bacteria when you need a host of different bacteria’s. In probiotics, listen, there’s thousands of bacteria in your gut, we’ve isolated under 20 in a pill. At best most pills contain seven to ten of these bacteria in a probiotic. Phil, everybody’s taking them. Listen, fish oil—find out in a future show, we don’t have time to talk about it, but why people are now in omega-3dominance. Literally, a new condition call omega-3 dominance is happening because of people taking fish oil. Big problems there, we’ll talk more about that.
How about Vitamin D, how many of you are taking Vitamin D? Future shows we’re going to talk about why that can be one of the most dangerous things you can do. Listen, I believe in Vitamin D, I’m a believer of the importance of it, so don’t get me wrong, folks. The problem is just taking Vitamin D can actually create something called functional deficiencies, which can lead to other problems, even cancer. Listen, we’re going to find out. We’re going to explore some of these topics. Saturated fat, cholesterol—I know, you’ve all been told to stay away from it. Yet I’m looking at a 2009 Harvard study talking about how the highest levels that ate the highest levels of saturated fat in this study actually reversed their atherosclerosis over time.
Phil Kaplan:
Dr. Pompa, speaking of time, we are about out of it, at least on today’s show.
Dr. Daniel Pompa:
I know, I know. Yeah.
Phil Kaplan:
Here’s what you have to do. You’ve got to write this down: Health Seekers Radio. You’ve got to go to gcnlive.com. You’re going to stay in touch with us. In weeks to come we’re going to invite you to participate on the show, between shows. We are working on your behalf to share the truth. We’re going to reveal some things that are going to blow you away. Even more importantly, we’re going to dig into, we’re going to examine some of the healing modalities that you’ve heard about that seem a little whacked-out. We’re going to find out, for real, is this legit, is it not? All we did today was lay the ground work. Dr. Pompa, I am so excited that I have this opportunity to not be so pent-up anymore. We are out of time. Phil Kaplan, Dr. Daniel Pompa signing-off for today, Health Seekers Radio.
